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Breaking: Deutsche Bank has all but confirmed it has Trump's tax returns. (Original Post) triron Aug 2019 OP
Uncle Blazer? Anyone know of this guy? triron Aug 2019 #1
Thanks for the link. Here is the unrolled thread: Qutzupalotl Aug 2019 #2
oh my gristy Aug 2019 #5
wow jcgoldie Aug 2019 #7
I like that approach. May I borrow it? BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #20
This makes an assumption I'm not entirely comfortable with jmowreader Aug 2019 #8
Huh? What? News to me about Trump. triron Aug 2019 #17
But these SDNY folks know how to delve into documents. Karadeniz Aug 2019 #21
If the evidence of Trump's criminality isn't recorded anywhere, there's nothing to delve jmowreader Aug 2019 #22
The Saudi component sounds authentic. triron Aug 2019 #23
He seems to know what he's talking about NewJeffCT Aug 2019 #4
If they don't have Trump's tax returns, that probably is even worse for Trump. W_HAMILTON Aug 2019 #3
That's Correct HiloHatti Aug 2019 #6
Please please may all this be true. FailureToCommunicate Aug 2019 #9
Who is to say that the Trump tax returns are real numbers? LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #10
Excellent question. I doubt the numbers are real. Lonestarblue Aug 2019 #11
IRS got one set of numbers and the banks got a different set. LiberalArkie Aug 2019 #14
Merry Fitzmas Sedona Aug 2019 #12
This news is racing across the news feeds (CNN, Politico...) ffr Aug 2019 #13
Kick and Rec Kingofalldems Aug 2019 #15
Deutsche Bank is exposed to potential money laundering saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #16
Lock him up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2019 #18
All of these rich criminals cover for each other and will continue to do so. smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #19

gristy

(10,667 posts)
5. oh my
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:52 PM
Aug 2019

Last edited Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:26 PM - Edit history (1)

From your link:

Once House Dems get the DB/Mazars documents, they have a team in place to analyze them, namely Daniel Goldman (former SDNY deputy chief of organized-crime unit) and Daniel Noble (former SDNY co-chief of the complex frauds and cybercrime unit).

Goldman and Noble will put together a killer case showing Trump to be a career money launderer for the Russians. This not only makes him a criminal, it also means he’s compromised and beholden to Russia. This is way beyond any of the other evidence against Trump; this is nuclear.

Once the case is built, Pelosi will take the podium and announce formal impeachment hearings, complete with the smoking gun. Pelosi will detail the evidence House Dems have gathered and the electorate will suddenly awaken from a long, gaslit slumber.

Don’t worry, all the other goodies will be in the Articles of Impeachment: the emoluments violations, the obstruction, the racism, the lying, the rapes, all of it. But the nuclear bomb is the money laundering. And it’s not just a little bit of money laundering, it’s massive.

If you want to know more about the money laundering, read @craigunger’s #HouseofTrump, listen to episode 4 of @AssetPodcast, and read up on what Deutsche Bank already has admitted to in terms of money laundering. It’s vast and it will blow your hair back.

And we know all that just from what’s public. Imagine what we will find when we get the receipts. You can bet Goldman/Noble are licking their chops. And it’s not just Russia: Letter said during oral argument on 8/23 they are looking at money laundering for Russia AND the Saudis.

Now that we know that the money laundering evidence is the centerpiece of the case and is on a November 2019 timeline, we can see that everything else is being timed to coincide with November. Can you hear the steady drumbeat of Dems supporting impeachment? That’s on purpose!

And how about the obstruction case? Why isn’t that moving faster? Well, it seems to be on pace to reach a crescendo right around November. And keeping the powder dry until November has a side benefit: the bombs start exploding right as Trump’s re-election campaign takes flight.

My guess is impeachment hearings run 3 months, with impeachment referred to the Senate around March ‘20. That’s not going to be fun for GOP Senators up for reelection in November ‘20. Are they really going to acquit in the face of all that evidence right before the election?

My guess is that #MoscowMitch tries to become the hero at that point by trying to get Trump to step down and not run for re-election. If you think #MoscowMitch won’t throw Trump under the bus to save his own ass, you don’t know #MoscowMitch!

Any way you slice it, the House Dem strategy is VERY bad for Trump. He definitely will be impeached for truly explosive crimes. He may very well be convicted in the Senate. And even if he’s not convicted, his re-election campaign will be besieged. Bottom Line: Trump is DOOMED.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
7. wow
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:19 PM
Aug 2019

So I'm not sure if that guy knows anything or is making everything up but it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy so I'm presently suspending disbelief...

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
8. This makes an assumption I'm not entirely comfortable with
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:27 PM
Aug 2019

The theory here is that Trump ignores the laws against laundering money, campaign finance, and all the other things he's allegedly done...but that he rigorously follows the ones about reporting all your income on your tax return.

jmowreader

(50,533 posts)
22. If the evidence of Trump's criminality isn't recorded anywhere, there's nothing to delve
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 07:10 PM
Aug 2019

Quick question: Where does the Mafia keep its money?

W_HAMILTON

(7,840 posts)
3. If they don't have Trump's tax returns, that probably is even worse for Trump.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 04:24 PM
Aug 2019

Because that means they essentially "looked the other way" in terms of loaning out money to him, and the only way they would do that if they could be guaranteed repayment via other means (*cough* Russia *cough*). Any responsible bank giving out a sizeable loan would almost always require a person's/corporation's tax returns and possibly other financial information (e.g., audited financial statements, etc.).

 

HiloHatti

(79 posts)
6. That's Correct
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:17 PM
Aug 2019

Having worked in Banking, the institution should have asked for a minimum of three years audited financial statement, including the CPA Firm’s cover letter and two-four years of tax returns. The reason being is audited financial statements are usually prepared using the accrual method, while tax returns are prepared on a cash basis. Tax returns give a more accurate picture into the borrower’s actual financial strength and ability to repay loans.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
11. Excellent question. I doubt the numbers are real.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 05:58 PM
Aug 2019

Trump has been a crook his whole life. Why would he balk at fabricating numbers for his tax returns.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
13. This news is racing across the news feeds (CNN, Politico...)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 06:15 PM
Aug 2019

They also have the returns...for one or more unnamed members of Trump’s “immediate family.”

Judiciary Committee members could have the returns in a couple of months.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
16. Deutsche Bank is exposed to potential money laundering
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 06:23 PM
Aug 2019

charges. They will close ranks. Sad, I have little hope that the IMF will stop turning a blind eye to criminal money laundering.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. All of these rich criminals cover for each other and will continue to do so.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 06:55 PM
Aug 2019

I do not have high expectations, but I really hope I am wrong this time.

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