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dalton99a

(81,464 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 09:56 PM Aug 2019

Trump told aides he will pardon them if they break laws to get border wall built (WP)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/take-the-land-president-trump-wants-a-border-wall-he-wants-it-black-and-he-wants-it-by-election-day/2019/08/27/37b80018-c821-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html

‘Take the land’: President Trump wants a border wall. He wants it black. And he wants it by Election Day.
By Nick Miroff and Josh Dawsey
August 27 at 9:04 PM

President Trump is so eager to complete hundreds of miles of border fence ahead of the 2020 presidential election that he has directed aides to fast-track billions of dollars’ worth of construction contracts, aggressively seize private land and disregard environmental rules, according to current and former officials involved with the project.

He also has told worried subordinates that he will pardon them of any potential wrongdoing should they have to break laws to get the barriers built quickly, those officials said.

Trump has repeatedly promised to complete 500 miles of fencing by the time voters go to the polls in November 2020, stirring chants of “Finish the Wall!” at his political rallies as he pushes for tighter border controls. But the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has completed just about 60 miles of “replacement” barrier during the first 2½ years of Trump’s presidency, all of it in areas that previously had border infrastructure.

The president has told senior aides that a failure to deliver on the signature promise of his 2016 campaign would be a letdown to his supporters and an embarrassing defeat. With the election 14 months away and hundreds of miles of fencing plans still in blueprint form, Trump has held regular meetings at the White House to receive progress updates and hasten the pace, according to several people involved in the discussions.

When aides have suggested that some of his orders are illegal or unworkable, Trump has suggested he would pardon the officials if they would just go ahead, aides said. He has waved off worries about contracting procedures and the use of eminent domain, saying “take the land,” according to officials present at the meetings.

“Don’t worry, I’ll pardon you,” he has told officials in meetings about the wall.

“He said people expected him to build a wall, and it had to be done by the election,” one former official said.




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Trump told aides he will pardon them if they break laws to get border wall built (WP) (Original Post) dalton99a Aug 2019 OP
Sounds like another impeachable offense to me. spanone Aug 2019 #1
How is this not illegal? sdfernando Aug 2019 #2
THIS FUCKER NEEDS IMPEACHING. Sugar Smack Aug 2019 #3
NOW! world wide wally Aug 2019 #11
Impeach this motherfucker already. RockRaven Aug 2019 #4
"Don't worry, I'll pardon you" tanyev Aug 2019 #5
What SHITLER Stupidhead doesn't realize is that his Deplorables will be hurting UTUSN Aug 2019 #6
Trump wants to seize your land! Quackers Aug 2019 #7
What kind of dumbass would break a law on a pardon promise??? Takket Aug 2019 #8
Imagine any US President encouraging his staff procon Aug 2019 #9
Dear Speaker Pelosi Haggis for Breakfast Aug 2019 #10
She is making this a political decision and I DO NOT agree with her on this point. BigmanPigman Aug 2019 #13
Please let there be a recording C_U_L8R Aug 2019 #12
Isn't that illegal? sakabatou Aug 2019 #14

RockRaven

(14,962 posts)
4. Impeach this motherfucker already.
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:15 PM
Aug 2019

It cannot be as harmful electorally as Democratic reps seem to be concerned about... can it?

[Gingrich/Clinton is a) an awful comparison and b) not even historically accurate when it comes to the purported blowback.]

tanyev

(42,552 posts)
5. "Don't worry, I'll pardon you"
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:16 PM
Aug 2019

LOL. Everyone close to him that’s gotten in trouble so far has been thrown under the bus. “Who? I barely know that guy.”

UTUSN

(70,684 posts)
6. What SHITLER Stupidhead doesn't realize is that his Deplorables will be hurting
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:18 PM
Aug 2019

by all the cash thrown away for the "wall" FOR NOTHING and by all the lost economy because of his policies, and they AIN'T GONNA BE HAPPY WITH 500 or whatever pieces of wall!1








Takket

(21,563 posts)
8. What kind of dumbass would break a law on a pardon promise???
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:22 PM
Aug 2019

I wouldn’t do that for someone I trust, let alone a drumpf scumbag!!!!

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. Imagine any US President encouraging his staff
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:36 PM
Aug 2019

to brea. Nixon was such an amateur compared to Trump. His offer of a pardon still means they would have to admit their guilt in committing crimes. It's hard for ex felons to find jobs, but maybe his loyalists will throw away their future for their love of Trump.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
10. Dear Speaker Pelosi
Tue Aug 27, 2019, 10:45 PM
Aug 2019

What does this man have to do to get impeached by the House ? I'm serious. I want to know what is your line in the sand ?

He is destroying this country. I'm sick and tired of excuses.

DO YOUR FUCKING JOB.

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
13. She is making this a political decision and I DO NOT agree with her on this point.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:48 AM
Aug 2019

This should not be about politics...he is NOT above the law. Fuck this shit!!!!!!!

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