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PCIntern

(25,479 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 06:15 AM Aug 2019

Right under our very noses all along...

When the Soviet Union, for a multitude of reasons, decided not to pursue the Space Race with the US following an acceleration of our NASA program; when Glasnost and treaties between the two superpowers became the norm; when Yeltsin and Gorbachev approached the West with smiles and friendly handshakes and waves, a bolstered it with compliments directed towards our country and our leaders at the time, little did it dawn on Americans that the ultimate takeover of the United States had begun.

Surreptitiously, Russia became our friend; yes, a friend of whom we were wary, but a powerful entrancing friend at that. We lowered our defenses, both real and intellectual, and allowed them to penetrate our society down to our very beings, and that included, but was not limited to by any means, our media, our social media, and alas! our voting machines.

They installed a stooge, a deep-cover agent whom they had been preparing for years - and do not think for a minute that he's the only one they engaged - and they have been systematically disassembling our country brick by brick in all terms: economic, social, racial, religious, and attitudinal. We have fallen a great deal since 1980, and we generally hadn't considered that the so-called hawks: Reagan, Bush. Sr., and their ilk would have been the patsies who opened the door for the insidious attack. It was a form of political jiu-jitsu: they didn't enlist the liberals, they enlisted the conservatives: the joke is on the Right Wing of course. And thus on us as well...

Like a movie version, Putin is the ultimate villain: we all knew his origins, he made no attempt to politically alter his stance of hatred of the West, he is brilliant and charming in his own right, and everyone played along, either because they were paid off, politically and/or socially blackmailed, or just went along with the "inevitable". The perpetrator of the crime of all crimes was hiding in plain sight: the 21st Century version of Poe's The Purloined Letter.

And so you see: the terrorists won after 9/11 inasmuch as we instilled in the population the notion that they required dictatorial-style vigilance by the State, and the Russians won the Cold War by going underground and removing the foundations of our nation.

The question is: is it too late?

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Right under our very noses all along... (Original Post) PCIntern Aug 2019 OP
Well stated and yes it's most likely too late. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #1
+1 superpatriotman Aug 2019 #2
...and the remaining 60%? DemocracyMouse Aug 2019 #7
We were not vigilant after Mr. Gorbachev tore down that wall bucolic_frolic Aug 2019 #3
"We will bury you." dchill Aug 2019 #4
What about our so called ICs? Useless overall it seems. BSdetect Aug 2019 #5
And the press has helped him by protecting Duppers Aug 2019 #6
There was a movie in the 60s The Wizard Aug 2019 #8
Great post. dalton99a Aug 2019 #9
I like to keep throwing out a point that has been totally forgotten. Dustlawyer Aug 2019 #10
"Our Noses" Roy Rolling Aug 2019 #11
K&R smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #12
Thank you for your excellent post!❤ Karadeniz Aug 2019 #13
No, get Red Don's poll numbers in the 20s (Nixon/Hitler area) then don't certify his cheated win ... uponit7771 Aug 2019 #14
Here's what some fear, with good reason. Grasswire2 Aug 2019 #16
Right uponit7771 Aug 2019 #18
Dems need to reclaim exit polls -- rethug framing has distracted people from the fact diva77 Aug 2019 #19
Excellent analysis The Liberal Lion Aug 2019 #15
The internet opened many previously secure doors to our society and.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #17

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
7. ...and the remaining 60%?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:43 AM
Aug 2019

It needs to have a democratic rebirth.

The rich are cool with compromise (for the $$) so the poor and middle class MUST get behind those who feel democracy in their bones. (I'm kind of thinking that ain't Biden).

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
6. And the press has helped him by protecting
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 08:33 AM
Aug 2019

the reichwing Republican party.
They've thrown cover, used the "both-sides"/whataboutism empty arguments. Faux and Faux-light.

The Wizard

(12,536 posts)
8. There was a movie in the 60s
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:00 AM
Aug 2019

staring Alan Arkin called "The Russians Are Coming." They're here and have infiltrated our government at the highest level. We have The Siberian Candidate.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
10. I like to keep throwing out a point that has been totally forgotten.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:04 AM
Aug 2019

The Russians hacked the RNC too, those just have not been leaked. Wonder why?

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
11. "Our Noses"
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:07 AM
Aug 2019

We all smell it, but only a few among us are farting.

That’s the challenge, because they hide out in the open but defile everywhere they go. So identifying the innocent from those who like smelling farts is important.

So gently ask “don’t you smell that?” every time Trump and the propagandists tweet their propaganda. If they say “no”, then they are liars—move on.

It’s said, “you can awaken someone who is truly sleeping, but you can’t awaken someone who pretends to be asleep.”

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
14. No, get Red Don's poll numbers in the 20s (Nixon/Hitler area) then don't certify his cheated win ...
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 12:52 PM
Aug 2019

... then go to the streets to press the rest not to certify.

With his numbers in the 20s we'll have the rest of the population with us ... new election .. protected

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
16. Here's what some fear, with good reason.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 02:47 AM
Aug 2019

That elections in some states will be botched, and then referred to SCOTUS for resolution. A la Bush v. Gore 2000.

We have to be prepared for that scenario.

Too bad that exit polls are no longer the check.

diva77

(7,629 posts)
19. Dems need to reclaim exit polls -- rethug framing has distracted people from the fact
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 09:20 AM
Aug 2019

that exit polls are excellent indicators of election results. Significant discrepancies should be questioned and cause for an investigation.

The lie about exit polls being no good cuz 'republicans lie to pollsters about how they voted' needs to be dispensed with...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
17. The internet opened many previously secure doors to our society and....
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 03:29 AM
Aug 2019

put the icing on the cake of globalization by allowing penetration of citizen's minds as well as their pocketbooks.

"The internet" in my terms includes the provisions for smart phones, tablets, etc., as well as access to the secrets and machinery of industry and our government. Fascists like Putin and Trump would be relatively toothless without the internet, although they would still be mostly localized criminals.

Overall, human greed, selfishness, territorialism, tribalism, ignorance and shortsightedness is what may destroy us far too soon.

There's little left of international unity at this time except for what it takes to make money and rob and pillage the earth.

Thanks for the good OP, PCIntern...........

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