Today USCIS issued guidance that DHS "no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and

[demmiblue]

Today USCIS issued guidance that DHS "no longer considers children of U.S. government employees and U.S. armed forces members residing outside the United States as 'residing in the United States' for purposes of acquiring citizenship” --

Link to tweet

[dhill926]

1. Still gonna vote for Anus Orange there...

military? What the fuck...

[Captain Zero]

13. probably but

they are going to find less and less help from foreign recruits (yes, mercenaries) who have always been guaranteed citizenship for them and their families if they served in the US military. It's been going on a long time. I knew a Filipino in the early 80s who had become a citizen, with his wife and children this way. So essentially in the long run this would lead to shortfalls in manpower from that type of recruitment. Personally I think hiring mercenaries is an empire move and I never thought we should be an empire anyway.

[lunatica]

2. Steven Miller is a busy little boy isn't he.

[Baitball Blogger]

20. +1

[PSPS]

3. Well, there goes John McCain's citizenship

[Va Lefty]

6. That's probably how Miller pitched it to him.

[Baitball Blogger]

22. Yup.

There goes the entire history of the Canal Zone, where four or five proud generations of Americans were born and raised.

[Freethinker65]

4. Obvious vindictive protectionist bullshit against true patriotic American public servants

I want to see Melania's paperwork, and all other foreign model mistresses and "brides" of American men in power's immigration paperwork. I want all of their children stripped of their US citizenship and either kept in cages without access to vaccines, blankets, education, and toiletries or immediately deported to their "Mothers' land".

No, not really. Because I am not a vindictive asshole in power.

[Opel_Justwax]

5. Thank you for your overseas service soldier. Your kids can stay in Germany when you return.

Insane.

[Xipe Totec]

7. WTF?!!

Please explain why anybody would want to serve the US government abroad under these circumstances?

[Wounded Bear]

11. I'm sure that's the point...

Remember, their goal is the dismantling of the "administrative state."

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. That would have delegitimized people like John McCain.

Not that Trump cares about that, of course.

[onenote]

14. No it wouldn't

There is a separate, specific statutory provision addressing the citizenship of children born to a US parent in the Panama Canal Zone.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1403

[Baitball Blogger]

23. Good to know.

[Iliyah]

9. Even when both are USA's citizens and have children

on foreign soil?

This will backfire on them big time.

Vote these motherfuckers out!

[subterranean]

17. Presumably this would affect only non-U.S. citizens

A child with at least one parent who's a U.S. citizen is automatically eligible for citizenship, regardless of where they're born. This guidance doesn't change that. So I assume it's aimed at U.S. government employees or armed forces members serving abroad who are not citizens. This means their children will not be eligible for U.S. citizenship, as they would be if they were born on U.S. soil. That's my interpretation of it, anyway.

[mr_lebowski]

10. "Residing In" or "Born In"? I'm a bit unclear as to whether this means what some are assuming

Such as that it would've made McCain a non-citizen. Come to think of it McCain was born on what was considered 'US territory in Panama', that's why he is (or was) a citizen TTBOMK.

I think this applies to a more arcane type of circumstance, not meaning that if a US citizen service member has a child overseas the child is not considered a US Citizen ... I can't imagine even crazy-ass Trump would try to pull a stunt like that.

I think this is more aimed at adopted kids ... in particular gay couples adopted kids ...

[onenote]

15. I'm not sure, but you may be right.

There are very specific statutory provisions relating to when someone acquires citizenship at birth. I'm not sure the rules at issue here address those situations nor do I think that they could change the statutory standards.

[rdking647]

19. according to a spokesperson

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States and, as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically,

[Eugene]

12. But, but, but didn't our Dear Leader say that nobody supports

our troops more than he does.

Trump's sadopopulism now devours a constituency that generally supports him. Brilliant move, Stephen Miller.

[sdfernando]

16. OMG! They are trying to de-naturalize me!

I was born in Munich to U.S. Army Officer. Our family is of 100% Mexican descent, I'm brown-skinned...When will they come for me?!?!?

[roamer65]

18. You're 100 percent American.

I see this crap as ethnic cleansing, just like the former Yugoslavia.

For instance, people of Mexican heritage have more of a right to be in the territory illegally obtained from Mexico in 1848, than do pink skinned Euros. The Southwest is illegally occupied Mexican land.

[onenote]

24. Never. The ruling, assuming it would apply to your situation (unclear) is prospective only.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

21. I thought that US bases overseas

were considered "American soil"?