It smells of a dan-rathering of Lawrence.

[UTUSN]

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If I've said it once I've said it a hundred times: There was *nothing* in Rather's report that was not true.

Same thing is going on here.

[dem4decades]

1. Maybe he should have had credible evidence.

[DURHAM D]

2. No it doesn't.

Lawrence knew exactly what he was doing. It is now a two day story instead of just one and maybe more.

I hope Trump it dumb enough to sue him. So does Lawrence. So does MSNBC.

[OnDoutside]

3. I'd love to think that's the case, though I fear it's the case of MSNBC lawyers crapping themselves

on the basis of a single sourced story.

[DURHAM D]

4. Did you watch the show last night? nt

[OnDoutside]

11. Yes I did, and I saw Rachel's show where she did a block on Deutsche Bank. I also saw the handover

where Rachel looked shocked by the Co-signing announcement by Lawrence. My gut feeling is that Lawrence is feeling the heat from the MSNBC lawyers and the likes of Andy Lack, who had previously tried to oust Lawrence.

[DURHAM D]

15. He is having fun.

He might try to seem all sorry tonight as his viewership doubles but he loves this. He is a writer and producer.

[OnDoutside]

16. I really hope you are right.

[gldstwmn]

26. I'm pretty sure NBC Universal has Donnie Small Hands out lawyered.

[StarfishSaver]

5. O'Donnell shouldn't have reported it until it was confirmed

This was shabby journalism.

[DURHAM D]

8. Did you watch the show last night? nt

[StarfishSaver]

9. Yes, I did

And I cringed when he was reporting it. He kept saying over and over he only had one source and didn't have it confirmed. That was a flag that he shouldn't have been talking about it.

I know many see this is entertainment and hosts like O'Donnell aren't traditional journalists, but they still have a responsibility to get their facts straight before they go on TV reporting information, even if it means waiting a day or two or risking the possibility that someone else might get the story before they do.

[DURHAM D]

13. Seems to me that you are holding Lawrence to a higher standard

than anyone is holding any other member of the media.

CNN and FOX would both have reported this without all the caveats provided by Lawrence.

[StarfishSaver]

22. You may be. I'm not

I expect them all to confirm their stories before going on air with them.

[eShirl]

40. I was surprised Lawrence let his own high standards slip.

a single source? really?

[LanternWaste]

36. You then believe a story should not be referenced by any media without more than one source?

You then believe a story should not be referenced by any media without more than one source? Regardless...?

[StarfishSaver]

42. A story about what's in a document shouldn't be reported without the document or more than 1 source

[rockfordfile]

37. I watched the show. The piece about corrupt trump and Russia I wouldn't call journalism.

To me it was more speculative.

[ffr]

6. I feel like L.O. has done this once before.

He's supposed to be an expert on politics. He jumps the gun too often. It doesn't make his reporting untrue, it just means his story is still unverified.

[nolabear]

7. My money's on Lawrence.

The press is far savvier about such things. Individuals do unsupportable things. Organizations are far less likely to leave openings for their spokespeople to be destroyed.

And Lawrence relishes it so much I can’t imagine he feels threatened.

[greymattermom]

10. They want the lawsuit

for the Discovery. Maybe the cosigners are LLCs owned by Russians, so there might not be actual names of Russian oligarchs on the documents.

[nolabear]

14. Exactly! Spanky's in way over his head.

And I am loving it!

[gldstwmn]

27. I could be wrong but I think the guarantor has to be

an actual person.

[Celerity]

19. ,.,

Link to tweet

[nolabear]

23. Yes, I saw that after I posted. I truly hope it's caution. If not I'm pissed at him.

We can't afford to give that monster ammo.

[Celerity]

25. I hope he has the goods on Rump, I really do not want to give up coming back to Los Angeles

as a life option, which we will if that fuck is reelected

[triron]

12. I believe O'Donnell's story is true as he presented it last nite.

[UTUSN]

17. Me, too

[Kid Berwyn]

18. Lawrence made plain how and where he got the report.

He made clear last night it was what he heard from a trusted source.

One thing that’s happened, it buys Trump time with us running down Larry instead of pointing out Wm. Barr’s father hired Jeffrey Epstein to teach at The Dalton School.

[pnwmom]

20. That was just what I was thinking, UTUSN. And we know how that turned out.

They're trying to inoculate Trump from something. I think what probably happened is that the Russians "invested" billions in the private banking side of Deutsche, and then those private bankers lent out millions to Trump.

So the Russians didn't have to officially co-sign. They just gave Deutsche the money they wanted to invest. And told Deutsche where they wanted it to go.

[lunatica]

21. May the truth come out soon.

Very soon. I believe Lawrence O.

[gldstwmn]

24. It's not that its not true. In fact I'm sure it is true

judging by Orange's reaction. He speculated. Was he hoping Trump would sue for defamation?

[UTUSN]

30. I don't get the "hoping-sue" angle. Or "speculated" - had 1 trusted source

[gldstwmn]

32. He never saw the tax returns.

If Trump sued there would be discovery.

[triron]

33. Who is 'he'?

[gldstwmn]

35. O'Donnell. There was a report that his source

hadn't either.

[Joe941]

28. Lawrence might have to take the fall for this just like dan.

[Buckeyeblue]

29. Seems like he put enough caveats around it

And backed off of it today. Dan Rather went all in. It's interesting, really. Maybe the fact that nothing surprises me is the most interesting.

[ConnorMarc]

31. He gave a tepid "apology"

Way to go!

[triron]

34. What's your point?

[Ilsa]

38. I think opening the can of worms might have been brilliant as

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well as brave. What are the trumps going to do? Are they going to sue, and provide documents in discovery proving Lawrence's point? I think he was right on substance.

[budkin]

39. Been thinking about this for the last day

And you have a great point.

[Trenzalore]

41. This will go away by the weekend

One of the punk kids was talking about suing NBC. I'm sure once the kid was explained that NBC gets access to all the financial documents in discovery the Trump's quickly backed off that idea.

Trump doesn't want this in the news because it becomes something else he is being pressured to disclose. This will die very quickly.