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Stinky The Clown

(67,776 posts)
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:27 PM Aug 2019

My GOD. If kids in cages are not bad enough, let's take medical care away from VERY sick kids.

I am listening to the story on Maddow's hour and am on the verge of tears. This is where we find ourselves today.

That FUCKING MAGGOT Stephen Miller is at the bottom of this, I'd bet anything.

Anger is welling up, but concern for those sick kids and their families is stronger in me right now.

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My GOD. If kids in cages are not bad enough, let's take medical care away from VERY sick kids. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Aug 2019 OP
Gotta wonder what would happen if the sick kids or the caged kids The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #1
Given that 1) Some of the sick kids being threatened are at Boston Children's Hospital dflprincess Aug 2019 #6
Or care. Trump has also just announced that children born overseas Hortensis Aug 2019 #9
Somehow I don't think Stephen Miller is targeting Irish kids. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2019 #10
No I don't think they're targeting Irish either dflprincess Aug 2019 #13
Stephen Miller is a fucking monster... whathehell Aug 2019 #16
Because he's a sick Nazi. It's a feature, not a bug. Mr. Evil Aug 2019 #18
miller, like mick mulvaney, are proud dittoheads and have said so - that's certainot Aug 2019 #25
I am listening to Maddow's hour also.. SOMEONE NEEDS onecent Aug 2019 #2
K&R.K The Admin knows exactly what they are doing. Ilsa Aug 2019 #3
Pro-life is a myth. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #4
Yep. If they stand by this, their "pro-life" position goes straight down the crapper. calimary Aug 2019 #19
Depraved cruelty. Low of the low. Mersky Aug 2019 #5
The SOB took through is own handicapped grandnephew off the Trump family insurance dflprincess Aug 2019 #7
WHY haven't the clerical and other employees walked and refused Hortensis Aug 2019 #8
Yes. Where is the Pope? Why haven't we heard from Pope Francis? calimary Aug 2019 #20
I would lke to know whose name is at the bottom of the letters. Rachel, btw, is scathing. Hekate Aug 2019 #11
I yelled out his name that fucking Stephen Miller bdamomma Aug 2019 #12
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow Aug 2019 #14
*Screaming* smirkymonkey Aug 2019 #15
Oh, they did it. herding cats Aug 2019 #17
It's sickening lunamagica Aug 2019 #21
If only there was some process for removing him from office?! Kid Berwyn Aug 2019 #22
This should be the headline on every news broadcast. Vinca Aug 2019 #23
No limit to their evil. Hitler would be proud. triron Aug 2019 #24

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
6. Given that 1) Some of the sick kids being threatened are at Boston Children's Hospital
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:58 PM
Aug 2019

2) it's no secret that there are undocumented Irish in the Boston area (current estimate is 50K nationally, which seems really low)
and
3) The Irish International Immigrant Center in Boston has gotten involved, (though the Irish International Immigrant Center, does advocate for all immigrants, not just the Irish).

some of the sick kids might look a lot like these kids.

I doubt if Trump's teeny tiny brain can grasp that some undocumented people are of European descent.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Or care. Trump has also just announced that children born overseas
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:19 PM
Aug 2019

of unmarried parents, one of whom is an American citizen, one not, will no longer have American citizenship. Skin color and national origin are irrelevant. The selection criterion is vulnerability -- that he has the power to hurt them.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
13. No I don't think they're targeting Irish either
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:35 PM
Aug 2019

but I do think the bigots haven't figured out that not all undocumented immigrants are brown. Deporting sick kids may make that apparent.

Through all this I've often wondered why we've never heard Trump complaining about the undocumented Irish - not that I didn't know the answer to that.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. miller, like mick mulvaney, are proud dittoheads and have said so - that's
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:17 PM
Aug 2019

where these dipshits come from and they'd be nowhere if 1500 radio stations weren't blowing in their sails

it's not nazis - the your local rw blowhard station

onecent

(6,096 posts)
2. I am listening to Maddow's hour also.. SOMEONE NEEDS
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:35 PM
Aug 2019

TO authorize some of this stuff........why hasn't someone.

I'm surprised there isn't more stuff on this tonight.....

This is one of the most things I have ever heard of!!!!

calimary

(81,181 posts)
19. Yep. If they stand by this, their "pro-life" position goes straight down the crapper.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:52 PM
Aug 2019

You DON’T get to call yourself “pro-life” if you stand for this.

You just DON’T.

Mersky

(4,980 posts)
5. Depraved cruelty. Low of the low.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 09:54 PM
Aug 2019

I can't even begin to understand how multiple people looked at this agenda, and said, yes, we will kick out sick kids.

I'm at a loss as to how to shame/change the minds of the people willing to do this.

The tyranny has to stop. This is not normal.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
7. The SOB took through is own handicapped grandnephew off the Trump family insurance
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:04 PM
Aug 2019

just out of spite.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/trump-files-donald-sick-infant-medical-care/


Donald Trump likes to get his way, and he’s not above cutting off a sick infant’s health coverage to make it happen.

The story begins after the death of Trump’s father, Fred Sr., in 1999. As David Cay Johnston explains in his book The Making of Donald Trump, Fred Sr. had written a will after the death of his oldest son, Fred Jr., known as Freddy, in 1981. The will left the majority of Fred Sr.’s wealth to Donald and his surviving siblings. Freddy’s family was largely cut out.

When Fred Sr. died, Freddy’s children sued, claiming that the will “had been ‘procured by fraud and undue influence’ by Donald and the other surviving siblings,” according to Johnston

Johnston writes that medical insurance had consistently been provided to the family through Fred Sr.’s company. This coverage was crucial for Freddy’s grandson (Donald’s grandnephew), who suffered from seizures and later developed cerebral palsy. So crucial, in fact, that a letter sent from a Trump lawyer to the insurer after the patriarch’s death in 1999 said that “all costs” for the sick child’s care should be covered, regardless of caps on the plan or medical necessity, according to Johnston. That didn’t last long.

A week after the lawsuit was filed in court, Freddy’s son (Donald’s nephew) received a letter informing him that the health insurance would be discontinued, meaning his ill son would be left without coverage. Donald openly admitted to the New York Daily News that he and his siblings took this action out of revenge. “Why should we give him medical coverage?” Trump said, adding, “They sued my father, essentially. I’m not thrilled when someone sues my father.”

Trump explained that his late brother’s family didn’t receive much in the will because their father wasn’t fond of Freddy’s ex-wife, the New York Times reported.
Trump told the newspaper that the family members later settled the lawsuit “very amicably.” What became of the care for his sick grandnephew? We’ll never know. The settlement agreement, according to Johnston, is sealed.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. WHY haven't the clerical and other employees walked and refused
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:12 PM
Aug 2019

to be part of this?! Have they become so demoralized that their "banal evil" is more just following orders?

calimary

(81,181 posts)
20. Yes. Where is the Pope? Why haven't we heard from Pope Francis?
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:53 PM
Aug 2019

We need his voice speaking out on this, too.

Hekate

(90,617 posts)
11. I would lke to know whose name is at the bottom of the letters. Rachel, btw, is scathing.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:22 PM
Aug 2019

This is the face of evil.

bdamomma

(63,812 posts)
12. I yelled out his name that fucking Stephen Miller
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:23 PM
Aug 2019

he's behind all of this. His ass needs to be seen, cowardly bastard.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
15. *Screaming*
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 10:55 PM
Aug 2019

All I feel like I want to do is scream! Every damn day it is a new fresh hell. And I am beginning to feel that there is no end in sight.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
17. Oh, they did it.
Wed Aug 28, 2019, 11:05 PM
Aug 2019

Someone needs to pull Stephen Miller's hand out of Trump's ass right the fuck now. Him using the power of Trump for his fucking puppet is killing and torturing children!

Kid Berwyn

(14,855 posts)
22. If only there was some process for removing him from office?!
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 09:54 AM
Aug 2019

Let’s hope Putin tires of all the bad press.

Vinca

(50,250 posts)
23. This should be the headline on every news broadcast.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 12:22 PM
Aug 2019

And you're right. It's got Stephen Miller's fingerprints all over it.

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