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turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:35 AM Aug 2019

The Guardian view on proroguing parliament: an affront to democracy

The prime minister’s action might adhere to the letter of the law but in spirit it is an act of wanton constitutional vandalism

Boris Johnson has written many dishonest things in his life, but few as consequential as the letter sent on Wednesday to MPs explaining his decision to seek a prorogation of parliament. The prime minister says that a new Commons session is needed to enact a “bold and ambitious legislative agenda”. To that end the current session must be closed. His plan envisages a Queen’s speech in the middle of October

No one is fooled, although government ministers make fools of themselves by parroting their leader’s line. Prorogation is a device to silence parliament during a critical period approaching the 31 October Brexit deadline. Mr Johnson cannot be sure of majority support in the Commons for a withdrawal agreement and he would certainly not have the numbers for leaving the EU without one. So he wants to dispense with legislative scrutiny altogether.

The chosen method for pursuing that goal observes the letter of the law, but in spirit it is revolutionary and dangerous. John Bercow, the Commons speaker, calls it a “constitutional outrage” and opposition MPs have decried what they see as a full-frontal assault on British democracy. At the intemperate end of the rhetorical spectrum (amplified on social media), Mr Johnson’s move is decried as a “coup” and a step down the slippery slope towards dictatorship.

Hyperbole is inevitable at times of political stress and it is true that Mr Johnson is pushing the UK into a constitutional crisis. But to properly assess the gravity of the situation it helps also to keep it in perspective. This is a cynical, premeditated blow against the principle of parliamentary democracy but it is not a total subversion of the constitutional order on a par with a military putsch. The prime minister is exhibiting the irresponsible arrogance of which he has long been known capable. But he is also operating within the technical parameters of what the British political system allows in all its archaic peculiarity.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/28/the-guardian-view-on-proroguing-parliament-an-affront-to-democracy

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The Guardian view on proroguing parliament: an affront to democracy (Original Post) turbinetree Aug 2019 OP
Gaming the system moondust Aug 2019 #1
Yepper spot on.............................he is, and republicans are tories turbinetree Aug 2019 #2

moondust

(19,972 posts)
1. Gaming the system
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 01:25 PM
Aug 2019

to get what you want is very popular among U.S. Republicans; they've been at it for years and have dreamed up all kinds of tricks to undermine democratic rule. Is BoJo following their lead?

RIP democracy.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
2. Yepper spot on.............................he is, and republicans are tories
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 05:48 PM
Aug 2019

its just taken them here in this country 240 years to take down this government, because they did lose the revolution and they were pissed off ever since, and as in England, it going on 600 + years and then they have this guy who wasn't even elected.........................and the Queen who lived during the Nazi crap should have said NO to the dissolving of government......................

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