Veterans rip Trump for 'abominable and unpatriotic' new rule attacking military families

[turbinetree]

By Oliver Willis -
August 29, 2019

'The stress and strain that this is causing military families is a cruelty that one would never expect from a commander in chief.'

Veterans and military advocacy organizations are slamming the Trump administration for sudden changes to immigration rules announced Wednesday that children of government and military employees living overseas are not considered to be "residing in the United States" for the purpose of acquiring citizenship.

The change is "an abominable and anti-patriotic position for the Trump Administration to take," said Will Goodwin, an Army veteran and Director of Government Relations for the group VoteVets, in a statement.

"Tonight, there's someone likely on patrol in a war zone, or at an embassy, who is scared to death that their child is no longer a citizen, just because they were born overseas. There are military families sitting at the kitchen table, trying to figure out how this might affect their child's benefits. The stress and strain that this is causing military families is a cruelty that one would never expect from a commander in chief."

Andy Blevins, executive director of Modern Military Association of America — a group of LGBTQ service members, military spouses, veterans, their families — called the change "preposterous" and "truly beyond reasonable."

https://shareblue.com/veterans-rip-trump-for-abominable-and-unpatriotic-new-rule-attacking-military-families/


I don't know about anyone else on this issue, but coming from a military family and having a brother born in Japan, a sister born in Germany........................I think that asshole Stephen Miller and this "commander and thief" of being a traitor (lets not forget that he had Russian spies dancing around in the oval office) should come and explain themselves in a House hearing........................................on the issue of their citizenship and the 320 rule:

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/us-citizenship/Child-Citizenship-2000-Sections-320-322-INA.html

...............................this just irks me to know end..........................

[Fullduplexxx]

1. Dont vote republican

[DENVERPOPS]

19. My thoughts exactly

It wasn't enough that Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld screwed you over royally........ You didn't learn and still the masses in the military still voted for Trump and STILL are on his side despite the carnage he has wrought on the mass of the military men and women.

It truly is sad that Ignorance Should Be Painful, but it is worse that you get trashed by the Republicans, and yet stupidly keep voting for them en mass........

Now Trump and his group are trying to get the mail in votes by the Military not counted..............

[LiberalBrooke]

21. Exactly, vote Republican then complain that they govern like they promised does not help.

Same goes for farmers. This is what Republicans do so stop voting for them.

[Ahpook]

31. They will

Its the tag that matters! Democrat is a dirty word

Fox News mind fuckery

[calimary]

35. Then we have to help make republi-CONS a dirtier word.

One would think their own actions would be enough to accomplish that, but they still need quite a few extra pushes.

[real Cannabis calm]

2. K&R

[qazplm135]

3. clearly they want to weaken citizenship

so they can ultimately move on birthright citizenship.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

22. Drip....drip...drip.

What I wonder about is, do they think that they are going to win in 2020? Because all of these policies will be history five seconds after President Biden, Warren, Sanders, et. al take the oath of office. Or is this their gambit to win over racist voters in 2020? Trump's policies seem to be increasingly affecting more and more people and sooner or later they're all going to take a toll on several members of Trump's constituency, making it harder for them to win in 2020. Or maybe they are just so bats**t insane that they just don't care?

[qazplm135]

29. I think they think it's possible they win

and if they don't, well, that's maybe two years of making it harder because nothing changes until Jan 2021 at the earliest.

[MagickMuffin]

4. But . . . Can he do this without Congress approval???

Asking for a friend.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

23. Dunno

but since he's clearly planning to do it without Congress' approval, he clearly thinks that he doesn't- or doesn't care. It's likely that there's going to be some legal action targeting all this, right?

[underpants]

5. He's STILL attacking McCain?

McCain was born in Panama while his father the Admiral was serving there.

[BBG]

8. My thoughts too

And having two sons born abroad while I was active duty really brings it home.

[Rabrrrrrr]

14. My first thought when I heard was The orange turd is still pissed at McCain for being a better man

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What a fucking joke.

I can't imagine this ever passing muster with any court, liberal or conservative.

[dalton99a]

43. +1

[Leghorn21]

6. I bet scumbucket motherfucker45 didn't even know President Miller signed off on this

“It was obvious that #TrumpHatesMilitaryFamilies when
he stole DoD money for his dumb fucking border wall,
especially since that could help renovate or rebuild fucked
up on-base housing, but rejecting citizenship for kids born
overseas to one or both military parents is abhorrent.”


“To any vets or active military members who still support this
fucking coward, you're fucking disgraceful idiots.

This piece of shit is not why we served, and he's betraying
all of us who were braver than he could ever be.”

Link to tweet

“Trump hates all families, including his own.

He cares only about himself.

Impeach the Motherfucker.”

Link to tweet

“Trump supporters, get this through your head, that fact Trump's
plan "only applies to non-citizens SERVING in our military" doesn't
make the plan or your support of it any more disgusting or unforgivable.”

Link to tweet

“TrumpHatesMilitaryFamilies” has been trending high for NINE HOURS now.

THANK YOU, AMERICA

[yaesu]

7. I wonder if 2/3rds will continue to vote for the orange turd? nt

[wryter2000]

9. Will military folks vote for the Democrat?

How long will they support this asshole?

[The Blue Flower]

10. So these newborn military babies are essentially born stateless?

How does this benefit anyone? Evil, stupid, malicious.

[demigoddess]

24. they usually are dual citizenship. trumpf is essentiall deporting these kids.

[treestar]

40. Possible

though most would have their parent's nationality.

[Farmer-Rick]

11. Then why would anyone join the military with this threat of deportation to military family members

If you know your child might be snatched up off the streets by ICE when you get back to the states why join? All ICE would have to do is sit and wait outside a base and pick up our children.

See how he has expanded the terror?

First it was illegal immigrants, then it was legal immigrants and now it is children of military members. Who is next? Children of citizens returning from overseas vacations or work?

Maybe he should deport his Slovenian sex worker first. She lied on her application for citizenship....if she has a degree and speaks 4 languages fluently then I'm the chosen one. She kind of has a squint, maybe bad plastic surgery. She's Slav and Nazis really don't like Slavs either. So, Traitor Trump should deport her before he deports the children of military members.

The ceaseless hypocrisy and abject cruelty of the Trumps continues to astound.

[soldierant]

12. I am a veteran myself,

but I don't forget - I don't want to forget - that diplomats ,civilians supporting military overseas, and other Americans working for the Government elsewhere than within our states and territories (I suppose he'll go after territories next) are also affected by this idiotic piece of non-statesmanship.

I don't know whether he can do it without congress, though I fear he can - if it's a "rule" or a "policy" rather than a "law," maybe he can. But Congress cold certianly change that - or rather, could, if McConnell would ever bring anything to the floor besides his shoulder.

[djacq]

13. Retired USAF Master Sergeant (24 yrs)

I have never asked this question until now;

Why should an individual serve this country under this President?

[Grins]

18. Until now I have never asked this question...

"Why did I serve?" And even worse, "Why did I volunteer to serve?"

And I'm serious - I have thought that. I volunteered and served in an armor battalion with the 1st Infantry Div. As an officer.

And now I ask, "Why? What the hell was it for...? To wind up with....Trump?"

[ooky]

26. I thought I was defending our Constitution and the rights, freedom, democracy it affords us,

our way of life. Now our President is telling people who are exercising their free speech to leave the country if he doesn't like what they have to say, telling people to break our laws he doesn't respect, and slamming the door on our very families who protect our Constitution. And he has an attorney general helping him do it, and an entire chamber of Congress allowing it to happen, as though the Constitution means nothing to any of them.

I am absolutely flabbergasted that anyone who has ever taken the oath and picked up arms on behalf of this country is supporting any of this tyranny.

[UpInArms]

30. This 👆🏼

Thank you

[calimary]

36. I am so sorry you DUers who served your country have to

witness such a slap in the face.

You and EVERYONE who’s sacrificed like this and put their lives on the line for our country do NOT deserve this.

Not for even one nanosecond.

This is hideous ugly.

[Skittles]

33. America is stronger than Donald Fucking Trump

[George II]

15. This would have prevented John McCain from being an American citizen - he was born in Panama.

[oldsoftie]

39. Trump probably wants to take away his citizenship retroactively.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

16. Question

When these families return to the US, are they expected to apply for citizenship for their children ? Will they have to go before an immigration judge and plead their case ? Will they be rejected ? Then what ?

As a veteran, and the relative of veterans who had children overseas, this about makes my head explode.

trump does not always understand or think through the ramifications of his mandates, but stephen rat-fuck miller knows EXACTLY what he's doing. I would love to see him . . . gone.

[treestar]

41. They have to apply for green cards for the kids

So the kids can enter the country.

[Grins]

17. Words NOT in that story....

"Veterans of Foreign Wars."
"American Legion."

VoteVets, and the Modern Military Association of America, OK; but the two groups above are the really big dogs here.

And their silence screams a crap-ton! Esp. after that obese draft-dodging serial-liar STOOD UP IN FRONT OF THEM last week and said he thought of giving himself the Medal of Honor. As if the insults to McCain were not enough. That that entire room didn't immediately empty out after hearing that...? Like they would have "If Obama had said that..."!

And now this.

Eff them. Seriously, eff them.

[Cosmocat]

38. Yep

nm

There is no amount of s*** that these longstanding Republican supporting organizations won't eat in the name of the GOP, still believing in the liberal Boogeyman.

[Vinca]

20. And still the military votes for him. Go figure.

[Perseus]

25. Same old story, it doesn't hurt caging children or other horrible actions until it hits home

Ok, now it hit home, what is the military going to do about it?

Amazing how people don't give a damn about other people's pain, no matter how hideous, how cruel it is. I bet some of the same people who are now worried their kids are not citizens never gave a peep about the caged kids.

[Demovictory9]

34. yeah

[BonnieJW]

27. I think

that Asshole45 desperately does not want to be re-elected. With Russia continuing to meddle in our elections, the only way he will be defeated is if there is an overwhelming turnout for the dem candidate. So he keeps coming up with more outrageous "policies" to offend and turn off his supporters. He's pretty much lost the farmers, the educated repubs, now the military. The only ones he still has are the very rich and those who can barely fog a mirror, and probably old white guys. The old white guys will probably turn away as well since he said doing away with Medicare and Social Security are going to be on his to do list during his second term.

[patphil]

28. I'm also a veteran, and I am appalled at the prospect.

Military life is a service to the nation, and involves a lot of personal sacrifice especially for military families stationed outside the country.
Now the Trump administration is thinking of denying their children citizenship?
It'll never hold up in court. Even Trump appointed judges won't go for that one.
But, it will cause a lot more anxiety, and fear in the ranks.
We need to remove that abomination from the White House, and cleanse the nation of the putrid stain of his presence there.
I can't imagine a better way for Trump to lose the military vote.
But then, many of our military personnel use absentee ballots that don't get counted for one reason or another anyway...usually because of the time it takes to get them out to the people overseas, and back to their home voting district.
It's just one more example of how little Trump cares for the citizens of this country in general, and the military in particular.

Patrick Phillips

[rickyhall]

32. As far I'm concerned if you serve this nation you are an American wherever you come from

And DT is one sorry son of a bitch, should be impeached, tried for treason, convicted and stripped of everything he stole from this nation and sorry children along with him.

[calimary]

37. This!!!

[NBachers]

42. Shoulda voted for Hillary.

[TexasBlueDog]

44. It only applies to children adopted overseas...

...natural born children are unaffected. But what is the point? What is the fukkin point? Commie babies?? Terrorist toddlers?? Do they sit around ad ask each other; "what is the most fukked up thing we can do today"?