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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:08 PM Aug 2019

The Frauding of America's Farmers Trump's biggest supporters are his biggest victims.

The Frauding of America’s Farmers

Trump’s biggest supporters are his biggest victims.

By Paul Krugman at the NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/29/opinion/trump-trade-farmers.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

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And here’s the thing: It shouldn’t have been hard to predict that Trumponomics would be bad for farmers. Trump’s desire for a trade war was out in the open from the beginning; protectionism is right up there with racism and anti-environmentalism as one of his core values. And a trade war was bound to hurt farm exports. Did anyone really imagine that China, an economic superpower with its own fierce nationalism, wouldn’t retaliate against U.S. tariffs?

So what were farmers thinking? My guess is that they let the will to believe override their judgment. Trump seemed like their kind of guy. He certainly seemed to share their dislike for urban elites who, they imagined, looked down on people like them. So they convinced themselves that he knew what he was doing, that he would win his trade war and that they would be among the victors sharing the spoils.

Even now many farmers seem to believe that the pain will end any day now, that Trump will soon announce a deal that restores all the old markets and more.

In short, farmers’ support for Trump should be seen as a form of affinity fraud, in which people fall for a con man whom they imagine to be someone like them.


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The Frauding of America's Farmers Trump's biggest supporters are his biggest victims. (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2019 OP
Reap, sow... czarjak Aug 2019 #1
"share their dislike for urban elites" htuttle Aug 2019 #2
They'll get what's coming to them in the END! walkingman Aug 2019 #3
They voted against the land and planet earth. Corgigal Aug 2019 #4
This may be a typical Trump ploy to create a crisis then wait for an opportune time to world wide wally Aug 2019 #5
I worry he gets help from ceos too who suddenly increase wages at an opportune time. applegrove Aug 2019 #6
That is the scenario I have been expecting. Right before the election, so that there is ooky Aug 2019 #8
Many of these Farmers Wellstone ruled Aug 2019 #7
He'll pay them off with subsidies and racism. They'll vote for him. Hoyt Aug 2019 #9
the saying is larwdem Aug 2019 #10

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
2. "share their dislike for urban elites"
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:41 PM
Aug 2019

Have they seen his houses? In New Fucking York City?

How can they not see him as the ultimate embodiment of a fast talking, cheating, city slicker? He's fucking proud of it! He brags about cheating people!

Is it just racism? Are America's farmers all that racist? Why would they hate Mexicans when they need them to harvest their crops?

I just don't get it -- and I grew up in farm country. Left it almost 40 years ago, but did it change that much?

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
4. They voted against the land and planet earth.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:50 PM
Aug 2019

They vote for white business, but they make their living from the land.

I guess they should have spent more time in retrospect.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
5. This may be a typical Trump ploy to create a crisis then wait for an opportune time to
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:53 PM
Aug 2019

step in and be the hero who solves it.
In other words, he calls off his trade wars sometime next year and then calls it a victory. Just long enough before the election to get some traction from "solving" the problem.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
6. I worry he gets help from ceos too who suddenly increase wages at an opportune time.
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 10:56 PM
Aug 2019

I'm not against wages going up but they should have if Obama had been allowed an infrastructure program. GOP did not want keynesian spending for obama. That might have shortened the great recession that hit workers and their wages while the stock market rebounded.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
8. That is the scenario I have been expecting. Right before the election, so that there is
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 11:23 PM
Aug 2019

not enough time for his myth to be dispelled. Unfortunately he may tank the economy first.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Many of these Farmers
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 11:19 PM
Aug 2019

were sold a bill of Bullshit Goods and now the Reality is setting in. Wonder how many will break even this year. And for those who were promised a Vote Buyers reward,well,that sounds like it is not happening. Only the Mega Operators seemed to get their Voting money and screw the little Guy's.

BTW,there are tons of Democratic Farmer Voters. My guess is,they felt Slighted and either stayed home or voted for some third Party.


larwdem

(758 posts)
10. the saying is
Thu Aug 29, 2019, 11:53 PM
Aug 2019

(no farms no food) but the fucking farmers better learn. (no city's no farmers) who do they think is buying
their products?

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