Flynn is the reason Barr shut down Mueller...

[pbmus]

Link to tweet

[Hoyt]

1. Mueller said Barr did not shut him down. Glad they didn't go another 3 years. The results would

have been the same, Mueller would have still let trump and his campaign off the hook for coordination, cooperation, collusion, whatever you want to call it. Those were the allegations that would have brought trump down, not obstruction.

[pbmus]

2. I have never heard Mueller say that Barr did not shut him down.?

[MadLinguist]

3. yeah, me neither. I waited and waited and waited for someone to ask him

whether anyone did anything that had the effect of curtailing any line of his investigation.
But nobody asked, and Mueller did not, of course volunteer any information other than in response to direct questions

[pbmus]

4. Thanks for confirmation and welcome to DU..

[Hoyt]

6. See post below. It was very early in the Hearing because GOPers wanted to shut down the idea that

Mueller had been curtailed.

Not sure how anyone who watched the Hearing could have missed it.

[Fullduplexxx]

18. Yea mueller said barr didnt shut him down

[Hoyt]

5. It was answered very early in the House Hearing, if you watched.

From Washington Post:

"The investigation wasn’t shut down

"There have been conspiracy theories that Attorney General William P. Barr might have shut down Mueller’s probe in some way, but Mueller dispatched with them.

"“At any time in the investigation, was your investigation curtailed or stopped or hindered?” Collins asked. “No,” Mueller responded.

"Collins’s question covered pretty much anything that could be understood as Barr reining in the investigation, so that should put this one to bed."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/24/takeaways-robert-muellers-testimony-so-far/


If you want to see it in a few seconds (although I am not famaliar with this source):

Link to tweet

Before the House Hearing there were a number of threads here that Mueller should be asked about any attempt to shut him down, etc. Folks were convinced he was shut down, and would say so. GOPers shut that down very early in the Hearing.

[pbmus]

7. Looking at the record of obstruction...

The answer to Collins question is obviously YES...

That was a generalization question to solicit a no answer...done well by a slimy lawyer politician:

I also want to add...Mueller either needs hearing aids or turn down the volume of his aides answers.

[Hoyt]

8. No, that was a question if he was shut down, curtailed, hindered, etc. He said "No."

Believe me, I was hoping he'd say he was told to wrap it up. But, there was never any evidence of that.

[pbmus]

9. So you believe there was 'no obstruction '....?

[Hoyt]

10. No. That is not the question you originally asked. You said you had never seen where Mueller said

Barr did not shut him down. I showed you where he did say just that, and you went off on something else.

Here's your response in post #2: I have never heard Mueller say that Barr did not shut him down.? That's what I responded to, and you obviously did not watch the Hearings.


Clearly there was obstruction by trump and his campaign. Unfortunately, not enough people seemed to care because Mueller let trump off the hook on every allegation regarding collusion/cooperation/coordination.

[KPN]

11. Exactly and objectively right from what I saw

and read. Mueller did in fact say he was not pressured to end the investigation.

It’s all on the House at this point and is (the American people) in 2020. If there has ever been a more important national election in our nation’s history, I am not aware of it.

[Hoyt]

12. Exactly. The election is where it's at unless something totally new, and damning, comes out.

I think trump is guilty of a lot of things -- crooked, immoral, incompetent to hold office, etc. But, nothing has stuck yet.

I want people to keep investigating, but we need to focus on the election.

[pbmus]

13. The question by Collins was not if Barr shut him down...

If there was obstruction then there was hindrance to the Mueller investigation...so Mueller answered no to a question that was obviously YES...HE EITHER DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION OR HE ANSWERED IT INCORRECTLY.

[Hoyt]

15. Jeez. Your original post said Barr shut him down. Then your first response to me was you have never

seen where Mueller says he was not shut down. I showed you. Mueller has had numerous chances to

Title to your thread: "Flynn is the reason Barr shut down Mueller." I responded that Mueller said Barr didn't shut him down.

Honestly, your biggest mistake was quoting Abramson, who is struggling to keep his blog relevant. To do so, he is increasingly posting BS that doesn't help our cause in beating trump.

[pbmus]

17. Jeez...So your complaint is with my quoting Abramson...

A best selling investigative author, a investigative journalist, and a university professor of journalism..

Answer the question, why did Mueller say no to an obvious YES answer.?

[Hoyt]

19. Carry on the conspiracy. This is one reason we have trouble getting the truth out.

[pbmus]

20. WTF....

Was Muellers investigations hindered by Trump?

[triron]

21. Me neither.

[Buckeyeblue]

14. Since he had the opinion that a sitting president cannot be indicted

I wonder if that influenced where they looked? In hindsight I'm very confused about the investigation. But I'm very confused about the last two and a half years.

Susan Collins is concerned. I'm confused.

I'm hoping for some clarity on 1.20.21

[Duppers]

16. "hoping for some clarity on 1.20.21"

+ 1000

[MasonDreams]

22. A conversation about this mess is meaningless.

If someone put a horses head in my bed, I would make sure I lied like a professional lie wyer. Who among us would cross the russian mob or the KGB or the epstein chokers?
Did you notice that the NY tax info and the douche bag bank loan info just disappeared? And have we forgotten roger stone yet?
It ain't rocket science, hell its barely 2+2.

[triron]

23. I didn't notice anthing 'disappearing.

[MasonDreams]

24. Lawrence O'Donnell said he had a trump loan doc co-signed by a Russian oligarch.

Then he had to do a correction. And the people's house (don't know which committee) turned down the opportunity to look at trump's NY state tax returns. Two disappearing acts.

[klook]

25. The correction didn't refute the claim.

O’Donnell said he hadn’t properly vetted the story per NBC/MSNBC guidelines. When there’s more than one credible source, this story will rear its beautiful head again.

[MasonDreams]

26. Yes, this is true, but it had been 4 yrs. now. The patterns continue.