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applegrove

(118,489 posts)
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 12:34 AM Aug 2019

Why white evangelicals should panic What you need to know about evangelicals in the Trump era

Why white evangelicals should panic

What you need to know about evangelicals in the Trump era

By Michael Gerson, Opinion, at the Washington Post

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/opinions/evangelical-leaders-are-tidying-the-kitchen-while-the-house-burns-down/2019/08/29/49d09a14-ca95-11e9-a4f3-c081a126de70_story.html?utm_source=reddit.com

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Evangelical concerns may be exaggerated, but they are not imaginary. There is a certain type of political progressive who would grant institutional religious liberty only to churches, synagogues and mosques, not to religious schools, religious hospitals and religious charities. Such a cramped view of pluralism amounts to the establishment of secularism, which would undermine the long-standing cooperation of government and religious institutions in tasks such as treating addiction, placing children in adoptive homes, caring for the sick and educating the young.

But this is not, by any reasonable measure, the largest problem evangelicals face. It is, instead, the massive sell-off of evangelicalism among the young. About 26 percent of Americans 65 and older identify as white evangelical Protestants. Among those ages 18 to 29, the figure is 8 percent. Why this demographic abyss does not cause greater panic — panic concerning the existence of evangelicalism as a major force in the United States — is a mystery and a scandal. With their focus on repeal of the Johnson Amendment and the right to say “Merry Christmas,” some evangelical leaders are tidying up the kitchen while the house burns down around them.

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If evangelicals were to consult their past, they would find that their times of greatest positive influence — in late-18th-century and early-19th-century Britain, or mid-19th-century America — came when they were truest to their religious calling. It was not when they acted like another political interest group. The advocates of abolition, prison reform, humane treatment of the mentally disabled and women’s rights were known as malcontents in the cause of human dignity.

Today, far too many evangelicals are seen as angry and culturally defensive, and have tied their cause to a leader who is morally corrupt and dehumanizes others. Older evangelicals — the very people who should be maintaining and modeling moral standards — have ignored and compromised those standards for political reasons in plain view of their own children. And disillusionment is the natural result.



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Why white evangelicals should panic What you need to know about evangelicals in the Trump era (Original Post) applegrove Aug 2019 OP
I'm absolutely astonished. A HERETIC I AM Aug 2019 #1
By all means, please proceed.... Zambero Aug 2019 #2
Excuse me? A HERETIC I AM Aug 2019 #3
I am reading it that the other poster is being rhetorical. hlthe2b Aug 2019 #7
Pretty sure the poster was referring to evangelicals. Not you. GulfCoast66 Aug 2019 #8
You got it! Zambero Aug 2019 #9
I see Gerson needs to "both sides" it with a scary "certain type of political progressive"... JHB Aug 2019 #4
Today's evangelicals don't give a shit about the Bible gratuitous Aug 2019 #5
I'll posit another angle on this issue.... KY_EnviroGuy Aug 2019 #6
No, Michael, they ARE "angry and culturally defensive". hatrack Aug 2019 #10
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Aug 2019 #11

A HERETIC I AM

(24,360 posts)
3. Excuse me?
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:45 AM
Aug 2019

"Morally bankrupt cliff"?

Care to elucidate?



Are you professing to be one who ISN'T headed toward such a cliff, and presume to be in a position to judge and warn others? Is that it?

Or is this tongue in cheek?

You've lost me.

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
9. You got it!
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 10:50 AM
Aug 2019

Evangelists are the cherry-pickers of the 21st century. Selective moral outrage over a few pet issues does not obscure their allegiance to evil and those who perpetrate it. People are catching on, and that demographic is getting older and smaller.

My apologies for any misunderstanding. Will try and use more smilies as might be appropriate.

JHB

(37,154 posts)
4. I see Gerson needs to "both sides" it with a scary "certain type of political progressive"...
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 01:45 AM
Aug 2019

... on which I call bullshit. God forbid he tell people on his own side that they're in a shit-stew because they used their own cooking pot as a honey bucket.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. Today's evangelicals don't give a shit about the Bible
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:07 AM
Aug 2019

There. I said it. When you point out how far their publicly expressed positions stray from the Bible, they just shrug. I am not a biblical literalist by any means, but if someone chooses that as their playing field, it's child's play to show the folly of their position.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
6. I'll posit another angle on this issue....
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 02:58 AM
Aug 2019

Today's youth simply will not fund these megachurches just for the little value they see from them. Most are cash-strapped anyway with high rent and car payments. Church attendance is falling across the nation as proof.

The church was a large part of yesterday's community, while the community of today's youth is on social media.

I also suspect most derive their spiritual guidance from sites on the internet for paths to meditation and other needs for mental and emotional wellness.

JMHO.........

hatrack

(59,574 posts)
10. No, Michael, they ARE "angry and culturally defensive".
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 11:05 AM
Aug 2019

Why? Simple, because they "tied their cause to a leader who is morally corrupt and dehumanizes others."

Your words, shorter version.

keithbvadu2

(36,655 posts)
11. Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.
Sat Aug 31, 2019, 12:40 PM
Aug 2019

Political Christians rather than Christians of faith.

They support Trump who says he is so perfect that he does not need Christ or his forgiveness.

Like today's evangelical/religious right supporters, Trump is a Political Christian, not a Christian of faith.

Evangelicals/religious right are easily able to spin their beliefs for political expediency.

The Donald who does not have to ask Jesus for forgiveness.

The Donald who ridicules Holy Communion.

Trump: Drink my little wine, have my little cracker

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/13/donald-trump-religion-serfaty-dnt-erin.cnn

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