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2020 Electoral Map Could Be Smallest In Years
August 31, 2019 at 10:07 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 42 Comments
https://politicalwire.com/2019/08/31/2020-electoral-map-could-be-smallest-in-years/
"SNIP.....
Dan Balz: Just four states are likely to determine the outcome in 2020. Each flipped to the Republicans in 2016, but President Trump won each by only a percentage point or less. The four are Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida. Many analysts point to Wisconsin as the single state upon which the election could turn.
Shifting demographics, the growing urban-rural divide and the gap between white voters with and without college educations have helped to create an electoral map unlike those of the recent past. So too have Trumps unique profile, messaging and appeal.
Use my interactive Electoral Vote Map to test your own assumptions.
......SNIP"
Or it could be a blowout against the maggot.
MontanaFarmer
(630 posts)No doubt about it. Top tier Senate race and a state that's demographically purple. Dems will take a run at Georgia also, with 2 Senate races there.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)Not holding out for Florida - they are crazier than Texas there....
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GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)If we win Texas, Florida is in the bag.
But we wont win Texas. We may very well win Florida.
There is a reason that even with a 20 year republican lock on power we are not open carry nor have any crazy anti-abortion laws. Republicans know their hold on power means staying away from most social issues. Texas is bat shit crazy on both those issues.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)Not saying there are not good people, but the government of Florida is led by crazies - your Governor leading the pact.
I do apologize - I should have been clear to my reasoning.
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GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)But saying Texas is closer to being Blue than Florida is crazy.
Like you, I hope they are both blue very soon. And think in a decade both will be. But trump can be beat here. We have recently voted for Democratic candidates. Not so much Texas.
Our House Representatives are 14 republican 13 Democratic. Texas is 23 Republican to 13 Democratic. You tell me who is closer to being Blue? Yeah, gerrymandering and voter suppression has something to do with it. We passed a constitutional amendment disallowing partisan gerrymandering. The republican legislators have done their best to water it down, but it has had an effect. But facts are facts. We are way closer to being a Democratic state than Texas.
No - did not mean to imply Texas was Bluer than Florida. I do not think Texas is going to be Blue for many years and only after some major structural changes to the State government (gerrymandering, etc.) have changed. Was implying at that point your Republicans were crazier than our Republicans. Yes, I live in Texas.
My main thing was that I think Florida has been effectively gerrymandered out of the equation by the GOP for the 2020 election and that better time and energy should be made going after NC and AZ as a counter-balance to a singular WI strategy. To your point, I do not think Texas is going to go blue this cycle, nor probably for the next few cycles. My personal canary here would be a Democrat winning a state office and the Super majorities broken in both the Senate and the House. I do think that an effective DoJ would bring Florida back to a better equilibrium and the timeline much sooner than Texas.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)It will definitely affect state and congressional races. But not the president which is a statewide race.
Voter suppression, another story all together.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Arizona is trending bluer while Florida seems to kind of drift back and forth and has an awful lot of old people (= Trump voters). AZ is also a much cheaper state to flip and has a very winnable Senate seat as a bonus. It would also provide a fallback in the unlikely event WI or MI sticks with Trump.
Georgia will be a little bit harder because it's not trending purple as quickly as Arizona and there are more efficient voter suppression tactics in place there. But the payoff of two potential Senate seats makes it worth a shot. Win the AZ Senate seat, one GA seat, and the CO and ME seats and the Senate could fall out of Republican hands if Trump loses (I'm assuming AL will go back to the R column unless Moore happens again).
pstokely
(10,523 posts)or are there more younger voters in AZ than FL? or less old cuban exiles in AZ?
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Part of the reason why I think Arpaio was able to hold on to power despite no one liking him. I never came across anyone including Republicans who likes Arpaio.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)So yeah, there are more old people in Florida. But I'm basing this on what I saw in 2018, Dems did better in AZ than FL in the most prominent races. AZ is also not engaging in voter suppression the way that FL and GA are, that may have a lot to do with why Sinema won in AZ while Nelson and Gillum lost in FL and I see no reason this will be different in 2020. Losing Nelson in the Senate was especially hard for the Democratic party, it makes retaking the Senate in 2020 that much more difficult.
former9thward
(31,949 posts)That is for the entire population -- not the people who vote. AZ has a large Hispanic population which is very young but doesn't vote.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Arizona still lost the Governor race.
LeftInTX
(25,150 posts)Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)And look at the trendlines, AZ is going bluer like TX while FL waffles back and forth (look at 2018's Senate races). And AZ is relatively cheap, just one big media market and one mid-size market, we'd be crazy not to invest there. Its votes would offset one of the 3 "blue wall" states (Florida could offset 2), though if you changed AZ with PA you could end up with a tied map (269-269) if Trump wins one electoral vote from ME. Then the House would get to elect the President
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,469 posts)elocs
(22,550 posts)I bet that doesn't happen again in 2020.
philf99
(238 posts)I can see a lot of States becoming battlegrounds States, especially if you look at where Trumps favorability is under water
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)For a Democrat to win, he/she must cut the loss margin in SWFL and the Panhandle (minus the blue city of Tallahassee) and drive up the Democratic vote in Dade/Broward/Palm Beach. Oh and then the Dem must win the I-4 corridor which is 50/50 but trending Blue (I think).
Rick Scott was successful in doing the opposite and he has a brilliant Twitter campaign reaching out to Hispanics in SoFla and hes made several trips to Puerto Rico which pleases Puerto Ricans in Central Florida.
Democrats must get their act together and have a very smart campaign strategy to take this state.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)If Trump were to replace Pence it would be with Rick Scott. But Scott will definitely be a presidential candidate in 2024. So we have to be in position to be ready for him.
OrlandoDem2
(2,065 posts)Save our beaches, save the Everglades, save Lake Okeechobee, stop Miami from sinking.
Save all other talk for other campaigns. Historically, Dems won in FL with strong environmental records which cross party lines, thereby cutting our losses in red areas and appealing to Democrats in blue ones.
pwb
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