There wasn't a good guy with a gun who could stop the shooters in Texas.

[mac56]

In TEXAS.

Take a minute to reflect on that.

[Skittles]

1. the guys with guns were shitting bricks and running, like everyone else

and the LAST things the cops need during an active shooter crisis is more gun humping wannabe hero active shooters

[pintobean]

2. The good guys with guns

killed the shooter.

[AncientGeezer]

3. Exactly...

[Larrybanal]

5. the police killed him

all the texas good guys that were carrying ran and hid

[pintobean]

6. whoosh

[elocs]

14. Yeah, I think they count as good guys in this situation and did save lives.

Most of the so-called good guys with guns have no desire to run towards danger as the police are trained to do. Plus these things often happen so quickly and are over quickly as well.

So the good guy with the gun thing is overblown, but I wouldn't sneer at it when it happens.

[uponit7771]

21. The OP said ***STOP*** not kill the shooter after the shooter started killing people. The goal of...

... a good person with a gun is to STOP the shooter from shooting in the first place otherwise what good is a good person with the gun who isn't a LEO.

[pintobean]

25. So, the good guys need to shoot first?

[uponit7771]

28. Yep, if the bad guys show they're there to kill

[librechik]

4. Good duy with gun presumably, Tx state patrol.first killed

So yeah even then unable to stop his own death in the moment.

[JohnnyRingo]

7. I pointed this out to a friend who carries.

He replied that he carries a pistol for his own personal protection, not because he's the guardian of the universe. That's what police are for.

He told me not to expect him to protect me if something horrible goes down, that it's every man for himself.

[Hangingon]

16. That fits with the training I received.

A concealed carry license is not a permit to become a vigilante.

[JohnnyRingo]

18. I told him if something happens...

...I'll be right behind him. Making myself small. Nice to know I have his back, so to speak. hahaha

Or more likely, I'll be leading the way out if possible.

[DVRacer]

8. That makes zero sense

The shooter was in a vehicle that was moving being pursued by law enforcement.

[mac56]

10. So how come

a good guy with a gun didn't take him out before then?

[DVRacer]

13. He opened fire while driving

Or are you advocating the murder of someone on the off chance that while being pulled over for failure to signal they might shoot at the officer? You want police to open fire more quickly than they already do? When exactly was anyone police or civilian supposed to stop him before he started?

[mac56]

15. Yes, yes, yes. That's precisely what I'm advocating.

Good Lord. Hyperbole much?

[uponit7771]

22. Doesn't change the fact that a good guy with a gun did not ***STOP*** this bad guy with a gun before

... he started killing folk.

The "good guy with a gun" crap is another made up falacy

[lark]

9. Good guy with a gun is just another rw murdering lie for profit.

It's trying to get even more guns on the streets and killing people who will need to get more guns, which kill more people, rinse and repeat endlessly. That's what Russia, NRA & drumpf asses want for this country, chaos and murder galore to scare everyone into doing the bidding of the fascist in waiting.

[Maeve]

11. One word repy to that stupid "good guy with a gun' crap

DAYTON

30 seconds was still too long.

[Liberal In Texas]

17. Yes, guys right there with guns unable to stop carnage.

The only thing that will stop this madness is to remove the weapons of war from private hands.

[Botany]

20. Yup! 9 dead, 27 wounded in 32 seconds and that was with good guys with guns being there in ..

... under 1 minute. No reason on God's earth that people need to carry or own that much fire power.
If somebody is of the right age and temperament then they can join the Army or Marines to use such
weapons.


https://time.com/5643405/what-to-know-shooting-dayton-ohio/

[uponit7771]

23. +1, and no one ***STOPPED*** the Dayton shooter before he killed people.

[hardluck]

12. Not surprising. What percentage of the Texas population do you think has CCW permits?

[dalton99a]

24. As of July 2017

[SWBTATTReg]

27. Thanks for posting! I have wondered about %s of carrying population...take care. NT

[lambchopp59]

19. There would be... if this existed:

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. In the UK and Australia most cops dont even have guns.

We are in the middle of a 75 year long nervous breakdown, as in guns and how many and so on.

This is a severe nationwide illness.