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CatWoman

(79,293 posts)
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:14 PM Sep 2019

Meghan McCain Warns: 'There Will Be Violence' If AR-15 Assault Weapons Are Banned

During today's The View, Meghan McCain went off on Democratic politicians proposing "gun grabbing" legislation to ban semi-automatic assault weapons and claimed gun owners will resort to violence against the federal government as a response.

She said that with nary a care, no concern at all. As if an insurgency by gun owners was perfectly reasonable. How many lives of law enforcement is she willing to sacrifice just so Wyomingites can have their semi automatic weapons of mass murder?

The gun control topic was a long segment on The View and McCain had practiced her talking points well during their vacation.

McCain opened up by saying as "the chick on the panel who spent most of her break shooting" she looked forward to this discussion.

Meghan claimed Americans do not know what the difference is between a regular handgun and a semi-automatic assault weapon. Kellyanne Conway would be proud.

She said, "The bureau of the ATF doesn't define the term assault weapon so that can basically mean any gun other than a musket."

She attacked Beto O'Rourke specifically because he has a plan that doesn't pussyfoot around since Texas is leading the way with mass shootings. “Americans who own AR-15s and AK-47s will have to sell them to the government.”

“The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America, by far,“ she reminded everyone.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/09/meghan-mccain-rants-there-will-be-violence?utm_source=social&utm_medium=facebook&utm_content=20293

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Meghan McCain Warns: 'There Will Be Violence' If AR-15 Assault Weapons Are Banned (Original Post) CatWoman Sep 2019 OP
Good grief, she is an idiot. redstatebluegirl Sep 2019 #1
Exactly. When are the suits going to decide she's not worth the trouble on that show? brush Sep 2019 #53
She brings ratings--though I bet a lot of that is from hate-watchers. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #75
Have to say it though. It is what it is. She actually threatened violence. brush Sep 2019 #76
Yes--and it was borderline incitement, too. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #77
And there will be violence if AR-15 weapons are not banned Sanity Claws Sep 2019 #2
Exactly. At least the violently obsessed might go down via their own guns, rather than taking others hlthe2b Sep 2019 #6
Exactly my first thought. JDC Sep 2019 #42
+1000 stonecutter357 Sep 2019 #51
There's already fucking violence Meghan you asshole! jcgoldie Sep 2019 #3
There will be violence if we don't liberal N proud Sep 2019 #4
As if there isn't violence now????? spanone Sep 2019 #5
Of course . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #7
oh, SHUT THE FUCK UP Meghan Skittles Sep 2019 #8
She might as well say these motherfuckers are crazy, they need their weapons. dem4decades Sep 2019 #11
they are both idiots and calculating opportunists Skittles Sep 2019 #20
As she said, she was a Republican first ... and then a Christian UpInArms Sep 2019 #9
Put the losers starting violence behind bars. Plus, they can't legally own Hoyt Sep 2019 #10
If NY and CT are any indication, any AWB will simply be ignored hack89 Sep 2019 #12
Wow. They're really going to town on that "You don't know anything about guns, so you're not allowed Aristus Sep 2019 #13
Girl, just STFU. Your 15 minutes will soon be up Hekate Sep 2019 #14
That is her Nazi Macho Rambo husband talking,... magicarpet Sep 2019 #61
John McCain (Meghan's father) supported a ban on certain assault weapons no_hypocrisy Sep 2019 #15
That's just proving our exact fucking point. Most , if not all, of the people who want those types Afromania Sep 2019 #16
In my opinion, we as a nation have lost our grip on reality. Sophia_Of_PlanetX Sep 2019 #17
So be it. Violence committed against our civilians, law enforcement Miigwech Sep 2019 #18
If you free the Slaves, there will be violence! OK, better not free them then... maxsolomon Sep 2019 #19
Like there isn't now Downtown Hound Sep 2019 #21
Non-compliance will be the biggest threat inwiththenew Sep 2019 #22
There's violence now you dope. mahina Sep 2019 #23
God! Meghan, take your Xanax demosincebirth Sep 2019 #24
We saw the same thing when we banned murder gratuitous Sep 2019 #25
This! Wawannabe Sep 2019 #57
Dear Meghan, Newest Reality Sep 2019 #26
She won't care until it's her husband's brain splattered on the pavement. Vinca Sep 2019 #27
I noticed she was pretty quiet, for the 2nd half of the show Siwsan Sep 2019 #28
Make no mistake mercuryblues Sep 2019 #29
as digby would say: she seems nice. 😑 Kurt V. Sep 2019 #30
"The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America, by far," she reminded everyone. tanyev Sep 2019 #31
No one is going to ban AR-15's. No one ever has. NickB79 Sep 2019 #32
Then wouldn't that make you an accessory, Meghan? Initech Sep 2019 #33
Then that says something about the people who possess them jberryhill Sep 2019 #34
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #37
Moron ploppy Sep 2019 #35
BAN THE AMMO !!!!! uponit7771 Sep 2019 #36
or at least tax the livin' jesus out of it cojoel Sep 2019 #38
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #39
.... CatWoman Sep 2019 #40
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Sep 2019 #47
I don't think you understand AR-15s or the 2A. Nt hack89 Sep 2019 #41
I understand SC rulings and we don't have a right to all arms especially for mass kill devices. 😉 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #46
I was referring to your ammo comment hack89 Sep 2019 #62
NATO spec . 22x and related ammo are not common use .... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #64
But .223 is hack89 Sep 2019 #67
NATO spec .22x and related is not common use ... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #68
What percentage of civilian ammuntion sales does it represent? hack89 Sep 2019 #69
% of sales is not relevant to common use defined by the SC uponit7771 Sep 2019 #71
So give me that definition with sources so we can discuss further. nt hack89 Sep 2019 #72
That's the problem, the SC left common use up to the states and California is going to push it uponit7771 Sep 2019 #73
What definition of "common use" are you basing your argument on? Marengo Sep 2019 #81
The ambiguous one the SC have but more close to what Cali Fed court said, something close to .. uponit7771 Sep 2019 #84
Some estimates have as many as 15 million in... Marengo Sep 2019 #86
That would make PPG SAR very non common in the US. There are 400 million guns in circulation ... uponit7771 Sep 2019 #87
If sources I'm reading are accurate, that's AR-15s alone. if I'm interpreting your definition of... Marengo Sep 2019 #88
Yup. You and Meghan seem to have us all beat... LanternWaste Sep 2019 #78
That's nice. Nt. hack89 Sep 2019 #82
So Meghan is a big-mouthed terrorist? rockfordfile Sep 2019 #43
the right should stop threatening America like that eShirl Sep 2019 #44
The AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings struggle4progress Sep 2019 #45
This is all horseshit. ooky Sep 2019 #48
Red flag alert. She's mentally unstable and her guns should be ecstatic Sep 2019 #49
Ronald Reagan on assault weapons: dalton99a Sep 2019 #50
Hey dummy, there's a shit-ton of violence RIGHT NOW b/c they are LEGAL. So the threat of RockRaven Sep 2019 #52
As an owner of an AR 15, if there's a buyback I'll be happy comradebillyboy Sep 2019 #54
how about be a patriot and get rid of it now? No one should have those guns. Joe941 Sep 2019 #63
If we make murder illegal, there will be more murder. Hmmmmmm still_one Sep 2019 #55
Megan McCain, being the daughter of the late J.McCain has a lot to do why she's on that panel. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #56
If you DONT ban assault weapons there will be more violence. Kablooie Sep 2019 #58
LOL, I love when conservatives come right out and say they hate cops... ExciteBike66 Sep 2019 #59
Those who resort to this violence will be captured or killed. nt Progressive Jones Sep 2019 #60
I find it funny the rishest person on the View needs to pretend to need to shoot Johonny Sep 2019 #65
"Unprincipled whoring for the gun industry is so important!" struggle4progress Sep 2019 #66
Wow, thanks for the warning, Meghan, because there sure ain't no voilence now, is there? DFW Sep 2019 #70
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #74
Other than being John McCain's daughter BlueMississippi Sep 2019 #79
What the fuck does she think is happening now. onecaliberal Sep 2019 #80
That will only prove the point that they shouldn't have them. Initech Sep 2019 #83
"My right to have guns is greater than you right to live." sakabatou Sep 2019 #85

brush

(53,743 posts)
53. Exactly. When are the suits going to decide she's not worth the trouble on that show?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:33 AM
Sep 2019

It's always some silliness/stupidity with her.

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
2. And there will be violence if AR-15 weapons are not banned
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:17 PM
Sep 2019

We have hard proof of that. Just look at all of the mass killings done by that weapon.

hlthe2b

(102,129 posts)
6. Exactly. At least the violently obsessed might go down via their own guns, rather than taking others
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:20 PM
Sep 2019

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
7. Of course . .
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:20 PM
Sep 2019

Also, if shithole loses, the left will immediately wipe out all the "gawd" fearing people.

Besides racism, Republicans always prompt up "hate", "fear", "freedom", "2nd amendment" and more.

Skittles

(153,113 posts)
8. oh, SHUT THE FUCK UP Meghan
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:20 PM
Sep 2019

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

she is outright TELLING US why these folk should not have these weapons!

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
11. She might as well say these motherfuckers are crazy, they need their weapons.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:25 PM
Sep 2019

Are Republicans idiots or just calculating opportunists?

UpInArms

(51,280 posts)
9. As she said, she was a Republican first ... and then a Christian
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:22 PM
Sep 2019

And through it all ... she has remained as dumb and mean as a jagged rock

hack89

(39,171 posts)
12. If NY and CT are any indication, any AWB will simply be ignored
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:27 PM
Sep 2019

the compliance rates in both states are abysmal. Can you imagine any red state actually enforcing such a law - there will be "sanctuary" cities all over the country.

Aristus

(66,293 posts)
13. Wow. They're really going to town on that "You don't know anything about guns, so you're not allowed
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:28 PM
Sep 2019

to talk about them" bullshit, aren't they?

A lack of knowledge about the female reproductive system doesn't seem to stop males from legislating against a woman's right to choose, though...

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
16. That's just proving our exact fucking point. Most , if not all, of the people who want those types
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:38 PM
Sep 2019

of guns are either violent and/or insane. So because insane people are going to use those guns on civilians, because you sure as fuck know they aren't going to shoot at people equally as armed, we shouldn't take them away from them. Yea, that makes a whole lot of fucking sense.

17. In my opinion, we as a nation have lost our grip on reality.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:38 PM
Sep 2019

Public discourse now jumps to extremes, e.g. “If you ban assault rifles, there will be violence / a civil war / insurgencies everywhere!”

Can we get real for a second? None of these things are going to happen. Even one or two or twelve psychos reacting violently to a ban would not equal a full blown conflict, or even “violence.” To hint at this possibly happening is an absurdity that belongs in dystopian fiction.

We’re getting caught up in hysteria, and this is an example of it.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
18. So be it. Violence committed against our civilians, law enforcement
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:40 PM
Sep 2019

will be dealt with. Isn't this already happening with all the mass killings? We are sick of these gun nuts.

maxsolomon

(33,246 posts)
19. If you free the Slaves, there will be violence! OK, better not free them then...
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:41 PM
Sep 2019

Binary oppositions are the bane of America.

Sales of new MSSAs may be "banned" in some far off hazy Liberal dream, but that doesn't stop Gunservatives from equating that with 100% confiscation. Slippery Slope fallacy.

What Beto is proposing has zero chance of happening until Lapierre is 6 feet under, if ever, and he knows it. No one knows who has what. It's a practical impossibility, like deporting 12 million "illegal" immigrants.

No doubt, there would be violence if Confiscation is enacted. Gun Owners of all ages and races have already demonstrated that they're violent.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
21. Like there isn't now
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:48 PM
Sep 2019

And bring it the fuck on then. At this point we can let the right kill us by having their lone wolf losers shoot us or we can die fighting them to make sure future generations don't have to live through this shit. I'll take the latter.

Let the whole world see what terrorists they really are.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
22. Non-compliance will be the biggest threat
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 04:58 PM
Sep 2019

If almost everyone turns them in we can easily get the holdout. If 5, 10, 20 million don't then what are you going to do? You gonna put 10+ million people in prison? You better start building prisons now in anticipation of that. Not to mention the log jam that it will cause in the courts. I don't think there will be war in the streets, although I'm sure some will, but I do think there will be massive non-compliance.

mahina

(17,620 posts)
23. There's violence now you dope.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:09 PM
Sep 2019

AR 15s have been used in so many mass shootings in this country you waste of oxygen!


@MichaelSkolnik
Poway: AR-15
Aurora: AR-15
Dayton: AR-15
Odessa: AR-15
Orlando: AR-15
Parkland: AR-15
Las Vegas: AR-15
Tree of Life: AR-15
Sandy Hook: AR-15
Umpqua CC: AR-15
Waffle House: AR-15
Texas Church: AR-15
San Bernardino: AR-15

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
25. We saw the same thing when we banned murder
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:13 PM
Sep 2019

People are still killing other people. Laws don't matter, obviously.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
26. Dear Meghan,
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:18 PM
Sep 2019

Please go find something useful to do with your life or go golfing or something. You sound ridiculous and maybe you didn't notice that, so here is your feedback.

The puppet room is pretty full as it is and your chatter and your speculative presumptions don't seem to have any real value in this critical situation that we are all in together.

You are voted off the island! Bye!

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
27. She won't care until it's her husband's brain splattered on the pavement.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

Just like Trump. If it doesn't immediately harm them, it's all good.

Siwsan

(26,250 posts)
28. I noticed she was pretty quiet, for the 2nd half of the show
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:19 PM
Sep 2019

Perhaps the audience reaction was not what she was hoping it would be. Well, it rarely is. It seems when she isn't screeching, she's pouting.

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
29. Make no mistake
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:20 PM
Sep 2019

she is saying that gun owners are violent and will shoot their neighbors, en masse. Somehow that doesn't comfort me, knowing that they are so unstable and own they types of guns favored by mass killers.

tanyev

(42,516 posts)
31. "The AR-15 is by far the most popular gun in America, by far," she reminded everyone.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:22 PM
Sep 2019

Yep, that's the problem in a nutshell, Meghan.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
32. No one is going to ban AR-15's. No one ever has.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:22 PM
Sep 2019

A few states have banned features commonly found on AR's such as flash hiders and high-capacity magazines,, but the guns are still legal in every state, even New York and California. And if those states can't get an all-out ban, I doubt we'll get one on a federal level.

Even the 1994 AWB didn't actually ban them.

Initech

(100,040 posts)
33. Then wouldn't that make you an accessory, Meghan?
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 05:27 PM
Sep 2019

This isn't the Purge, although "Keep America Great" is Chump's reelection slogan.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
46. I understand SC rulings and we don't have a right to all arms especially for mass kill devices. 😉
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:28 PM
Sep 2019

hack89

(39,171 posts)
62. I was referring to your ammo comment
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:15 AM
Sep 2019

there is no unique AR-15 ammo - the rifle is available in numerous calibers. And ammo is covered by the 2A so there are limits on what you can do regarding ammo.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
64. NATO spec . 22x and related ammo are not common use ....
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:45 AM
Sep 2019

... and neither are the PPG Semiautomatic rifles.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
67. But .223 is
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

as is 6.5, 6.8 Grendel and all the other calibers AR-15s come in. And lets not forget all the AR-10 with all the standard civilian hunting calibers it comes with.

As an aside, military 5.56mm FMJ is a much less lethal round than any civilian .223 hunting round due to the Geneva convention. It is a war crime to give soldiers civilian hunting ammunition.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
69. What percentage of civilian ammuntion sales does it represent?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:05 PM
Sep 2019

isn't time you toss out some hard numbers?

.223 is not NATO spec but is interchangeable with 5.56. What would your ban actually accomplish?

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
73. That's the problem, the SC left common use up to the states and California is going to push it
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:22 PM
Sep 2019

... into next year.

Keep your fingers cross the SC doesn't just through out some stupid assed definition of what common use is.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
84. The ambiguous one the SC have but more close to what Cali Fed court said, something close to ..
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:47 PM
Sep 2019

... Military look and use and performance

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
86. Some estimates have as many as 15 million in...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:12 PM
Sep 2019

Private hands, and 5.56 is purchased in vast quantities. At this point I think it’s difficult to argue such numbers don’t translate into common use.

uponit7771

(90,302 posts)
87. That would make PPG SAR very non common in the US. There are 400 million guns in circulation ...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 07:18 PM
Sep 2019

.. 15 milliion would be less than what 3%

 

Marengo

(3,477 posts)
88. If sources I'm reading are accurate, that's AR-15s alone. if I'm interpreting your definition of...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 09:25 PM
Sep 2019

PPG SAR correctly, that would include AK variants of both foreign import origin (approximately 2 million from China although accurate totals difficult to track down) and domestic manufacture, FALs, etc. Several million more perhaps. As an anecdote, I bought a Steyr Maadi AKM in 1983. Back then AKs were expensive novelties which attracted quite a bit of interest on the shooting range. Fast forward to 2019, my US 1898 Krag attracts a lot of interest on the range because a large percentage of other rifles there seem to be one or another variant of AR or AK.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
78. Yup. You and Meghan seem to have us all beat...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:44 PM
Sep 2019

You guys use the Acme Dynamite Kit so effectively.

struggle4progress

(118,230 posts)
45. The AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 09:25 PM
Sep 2019

illiam Cummings and Bart Jansen, USA TODAY
Published 10:35 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2018
Updated 6:59 p.m. ET Feb. 15, 2018

A Las Vegas concert. An Orlando nightclub. An elementary school in Newtown, Conn. A Texas church. And .. a high school in Parkland ...

America's most popular weapon was there for all of them.

AR-15-style rifles have increasingly appeared in American mass shootings ...

The ability to add a high-capacity magazine to the rifles is certainly one factor that makes them attractive to people looking to commit mass murder. A 30-round magazine is fairly standard with MSRs (although some states cap the capacity to 10 or 15 rounds), but "drums" holding as many as 100 rounds are also available ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2018/02/14/ar-15-mass-shootings/339519002/

ooky

(8,908 posts)
48. This is all horseshit.
Tue Sep 3, 2019, 11:26 PM
Sep 2019

You can't fight the federal government. Not and win. Their little wet dream "civil war" will be over as soon as the police arrive and >99% of these morons will go home bitching. The other <1% might end up like this brilliant gun toting individual who decided to threaten the government with his guns.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=msnbc+finicum&&view=detail&mid=E1CF71C9B50A87BBDFAEE1CF71C9B50A87BBDFAE&&FORM=VRDGAR

So,

1. Ban the sales and/or ownership of the the assault weapons and the high capacity magazines and set a deadline to return them in a buyback program. Set up redemption centers and give them a receipt for a tax credit.
2. Thereafter, make it a felony to be caught in possession of one of these illegal items, with a mandatory minimum one year in a federal penitentiary.
3. As extra incentive to take advantage of the buyback program, set up a hotline to turn in people who are known to still be possessing these instruments of death, with a reward for each successful conviction.

This will give them one chance to either get money for their weapons or forever start figuring out where they are going to hide their newly illegal contraband and risk prison if caught. In the meantime it will become much riskier for them to ever leave their homes carrying these things with them out into the public. They will have to lock them up out of sight of everybody.

ecstatic

(32,653 posts)
49. Red flag alert. She's mentally unstable and her guns should be
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:15 AM
Sep 2019

confiscated until a full psych exam is performed. And if she's correct in her assertion that AR15 owners will become violent, then they too need to have their guns taken until they're fully cleared by a panel of mental health professionals. Rethugs always blame shootings on mental illness. Ok, here's your chance to take meaningful action.

RockRaven

(14,901 posts)
52. Hey dummy, there's a shit-ton of violence RIGHT NOW b/c they are LEGAL. So the threat of
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:26 AM
Sep 2019

violence if they are banned is not cost-prohibitive, because we are already paying that cost every fucking day, with no end in sight. At least in your gun-humping seditious fever-dream the violence in question would be a discrete period in time.

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
54. As an owner of an AR 15, if there's a buyback I'll be happy
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 12:55 AM
Sep 2019

to sell it to whichever government agency is buying. I've only got five guns I really want to keep.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
56. Megan McCain, being the daughter of the late J.McCain has a lot to do why she's on that panel.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:01 AM
Sep 2019

However the producers must have a RWer (I suppose McCain fits the bill) you know, so the Corporate suits can say the show is ''fair and balanced". Everyone anticipates a push back from her on almost all the issues. I can see her strapped with an AR-15 with her red lipstick.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
58. If you DONT ban assault weapons there will be more violence.
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:38 AM
Sep 2019

So what is the bigger problem?

Gun owners attacking the government or gun owners attacking crowds of innocent people?

ExciteBike66

(2,297 posts)
59. LOL, I love when conservatives come right out and say they hate cops...
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 05:39 AM
Sep 2019

I mean, who do they think will be enforcing the ban? Are these "Blue Lives Matter" morons really going to start shooting cops?

Johonny

(20,818 posts)
65. I find it funny the rishest person on the View needs to pretend to need to shoot
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 10:04 AM
Sep 2019

because she's all about cultivating the GOP image.

DFW

(54,295 posts)
70. Wow, thanks for the warning, Meghan, because there sure ain't no voilence now, is there?
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

Oh, wait.

Never mind.

 

BlueMississippi

(776 posts)
79. Other than being John McCain's daughter
Wed Sep 4, 2019, 03:47 PM
Sep 2019

does she have any qualifications that she has personally earned in order to spout her mouth off?

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