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shraby

(21,946 posts)
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 09:42 PM Sep 2019

Who ever missed Rachel, catch the rerun later. She has absolutely jaw-dropping

stuff.
On top of the having the military gas up to the tune of 11 mil. in Scotland, he is withholding the aid that has been allocated to Ukraine to help them hold off Russia. The aid will be released in return for dirt against the Bidens to help him win against Biden.

The damned grifter taking the country for a ride, he's bribing a country to help him win the 2020 election. He needs to be hauled up to account for himself.

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Who ever missed Rachel, catch the rerun later. She has absolutely jaw-dropping (Original Post) shraby Sep 2019 OP
Whoever continues to support Trump after this are not an American. LiberalFighter Sep 2019 #1
Or rather, joshdawg Sep 2019 #24
+1! eom BlueMTexpat Sep 2019 #38
He's an absolute enemy of the state. spanone Sep 2019 #2
Without a doubt. dchill Sep 2019 #19
+1000 triron Sep 2019 #44
this splunge63 Sep 2019 #39
and the top military officials are complicit nt DURHAM D Sep 2019 #3
And it will be the military tasked to "investigate". So far, they are refusing comment. Midnight Writer Sep 2019 #10
I assume some of this happened on Mattis' watch. Lonestarblue Sep 2019 #42
ITTMF malaise Sep 2019 #4
Wait. Today you support it? KPN Sep 2019 #29
Huh? malaise Sep 2019 #31
Oh, so IMTF is different than .... KPN Sep 2019 #35
We're on the same page malaise Sep 2019 #37
and now NOAA is corrupted by him Grasswire2 Sep 2019 #5
Holding up our support to Ukraine to force them to meddle in 2020 elections... FailureToCommunicate Sep 2019 #6
The video is up on YouTube now. nt avebury Sep 2019 #7
Under what? Google what???? DemocracyMouse Sep 2019 #32
I don't believe it. He's going to cancel elections and all signs of domestic tranquility. MasonDreams Sep 2019 #8
Nothing will come of it. He does whatever he pleases. CentralMass Sep 2019 #9
Sure seems that way. KPN Sep 2019 #30
I can no longer countenance anyone cilla4progress Sep 2019 #11
And then there is the grifting. Ilsa Sep 2019 #12
The Sticher app also carries podcasts of her show. nt Ilsa Sep 2019 #13
Agreed! I hope other news outlets pick up on this Politico news. Tom Yossarian Joad Sep 2019 #14
But no one is there to take it to the next level. Congress Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2019 #15
😱 seta1950 Sep 2019 #16
Well, if the histtory books are rewritten as they often are in dictatorships, future generations erronis Sep 2019 #50
He needs to be KEELHAULED... dchill Sep 2019 #17
World War III is democracies vs mobsters and oligarchs Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #18
Who needs nuclear bombs any more? gordianot Sep 2019 #21
I agree 100%. And the GOP is the cartels KPN Sep 2019 #33
If Bidens son has and issue that may cause problems randr Sep 2019 #20
Any issue related to Biden's son pale's KPN Sep 2019 #34
Without question there is no comparison randr Sep 2019 #46
Understood. It's just extremely frustrating that KPN Sep 2019 #47
In addition to POS-45's increasingly predictable brazen rat-fucking grift, MadLinguist Sep 2019 #22
I did the math for her. 7wo7rees Sep 2019 #23
are you sure there were nowhere near that many trips ? drray23 Sep 2019 #49
Assume they paid inflated rates for both fuel and Trump's hotel. DFW Sep 2019 #51
You're on it. 7wo7rees Sep 2019 #59
Jet fuel a bit more expensive in UK. mwooldri Sep 2019 #55
How many jets were used?? just asking as I do not know riversedge Sep 2019 #61
Politico retweeted the Maddow blog riversedge Sep 2019 #62
Bodies are really starting to pile up on 5th Ave... N_E_1 for Tennis Sep 2019 #25
Our country has been invaded from within. Incredible. Funtatlaguy Sep 2019 #26
I read your OP as "She has absolutely Law-dropping stuff" sagesnow Sep 2019 #27
I want to know what was on the C17's that landed in Scotland & where were they coming from Pachamama Sep 2019 #28
He gets all the blame (mostly), grumpyduck Sep 2019 #36
And yet, he still sits on his throne. Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #40
Exactly superpatriotman Sep 2019 #41
Yeah, I'll withold my enthusiasm on this until something is fucking DONE about it. Paladin Sep 2019 #43
It does seem to be headed that way, doesn't it? nt Ferrets are Cool Sep 2019 #57
Yet another impeachable and jailable offense... elias7 Sep 2019 #45
I just say "To hell with with a system that allows this shit to happen". Idiocracy in action. triron Sep 2019 #48
From my twitter feed Gothmog Sep 2019 #52
From last night's show Gothmog Sep 2019 #53
I can't believe there's still nothing about this on either HuffPo or the CNN site. Vinca Sep 2019 #54
MSNBC also repeats Rachel at 9pm tonight (Saturday) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #56
She knows what the fucker is up to and it ain't no good. triron Sep 2019 #58
Maddow was stunned--she even admitted it. Please watch and pass it on riversedge Sep 2019 #60
Surprises me that even she would be stunned. She's the last I would have expected. triron Sep 2019 #63

joshdawg

(2,647 posts)
24. Or rather,
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 07:53 AM
Sep 2019

whoever continues to support trump is not American.

trump supporters are traitors to the U.S.

That includes about 80% of all republicans.

Vote the bastards out!!

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
10. And it will be the military tasked to "investigate". So far, they are refusing comment.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:23 PM
Sep 2019

This will be another case of not being able to trace this directly to Trump, to a legal certainty.

The Congress can subpoena, but the Executive will have to act to enforce it. Same with Judicial decisions. I am aware that the Capitol Police can be used, but can you imagine them rolling up to a military base to take their General in?

Another "Balance of Power" stalemate.

Lonestarblue

(9,972 posts)
42. I assume some of this happened on Mattis' watch.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 10:55 AM
Sep 2019

He should be asked about it the next time he is interviewed for his book tour. I am angry at the extra unnecessary spending when Congress just keeps giving more and more money to the military, but I find it very disturbing that the military was doing this to support Trump’s personal finances. That’s a level of corruption I did not expect to see, and it makes me wonder just what the military will do to protect and support Trump—like sending a nuclear bomb to Iran. It feels as though there are no controls anymore—it’s all whatever Trump wants, including allowing him to use funds for the wall specifically not allocated by Congress for that purpose. Trump has effectively taken away Congress’ power of the purse with nary a peep from any Republican.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
31. Huh?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:00 AM
Sep 2019

I have always supported impeachment after building the case for impeachment.
Dems now have way more than the Mueller report. I am not a fast food supporter.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
5. and now NOAA is corrupted by him
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 09:49 PM
Sep 2019

The center isn't holding, peeps.

Open the spigot.

Step back and hold hands. Gonna get deep and choppy!!

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
6. Holding up our support to Ukraine to force them to meddle in 2020 elections...
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 10:12 PM
Sep 2019

seems like the much bigger story than the military stopovers in Scotland...

Our outrage fatigue is certainly being tested daily.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
12. And then there is the grifting.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:44 PM
Sep 2019

Using the military to stopover and buy fuel for aircraft at retail rates to support the failing airport next to his country club in Scotland, and having personnel stay over at his failing resort.

Tom Yossarian Joad

(19,227 posts)
14. Agreed! I hope other news outlets pick up on this Politico news.
Fri Sep 6, 2019, 11:50 PM
Sep 2019

She took it and wrapped it up beautifully.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. But no one is there to take it to the next level. Congress
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:10 AM
Sep 2019

Can say, we will investigate that...even for us, it seems so pointless. We have lost our moral authority, imho, since we did not declare on April 4th, that Dipshit's actions were impeachable. Where the hell is the emoluments investigation anyway?

seta1950

(932 posts)
16. 😱
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:10 AM
Sep 2019

Future generations are going to ask us what we did to stop this,what in heaven’s name will we say?

erronis

(15,241 posts)
50. Well, if the histtory books are rewritten as they often are in dictatorships, future generations
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:41 PM
Sep 2019

will think the dump dynasty is the best thing since burger buns.

And about all of those detentions and deaths of protesters? No word in those new history books.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
21. Who needs nuclear bombs any more?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:37 AM
Sep 2019

........When you can fly a nuclear missile that with a little tweaking will turn vast swaths into a large irradiated wasteland. Not only that Putin wants to share his Nuclear Cruise missile with Trump. Maybe extreme measures will get Trump out of hock to Putin and stave off 2020. Kill off excess population and you can still live like kings. A world worthy of Boris, Vlad and Donald just around the corner. Dystopia anyone?

randr

(12,409 posts)
20. If Bidens son has and issue that may cause problems
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:35 AM
Sep 2019

He needs to get it out front and do an end run around the lsos no matter the consequences.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
34. Any issue related to Biden's son pale's
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:11 AM
Sep 2019

in comparison to the on-slaughter of bold-faced criminal and otherwise corrupt or totally unethical acts by tRump and his stooges. Yet, here we are ... concerned about a possibility of a little something that can damage a fully law abiding, ethical candidate. Too many American voters are so fucked up.

randr

(12,409 posts)
46. Without question there is no comparison
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:35 AM
Sep 2019

My point is that "if" there is any "there" there it needs disclosure asap.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
47. Understood. It's just extremely frustrating that
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:07 PM
Sep 2019

the the mainstream media tend to normalize trumpism and treat him/them as no different by and large.

MadLinguist

(790 posts)
22. In addition to POS-45's increasingly predictable brazen rat-fucking grift,
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:02 AM
Sep 2019

this makes zero sense politically or business-wise for Ukraine. Surely it'd be far more expensive to wage an infowar against some foreign political campaign (a former US vice president running for president) than the aid that is being dangled and simultaneously being threatened to be withdrawn. Unless there are matching funds from Russia to do the dirty deed, or some other kind of backing, this shyte has no rational calculus. I can't bring myself to believe that Ukraine would go along with this, or even that the chief ass-wipe in the White House thinks it would, even taking into account all the mental instability he parades around like a baboon's hind quarters. It feels like he and whoever his cabal is want to pull the remaining truth-tellers into a narrative so outrageous and face-value ridiculous that stories about this crap will look like accounts of pizza-gate.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
23. I did the math for her.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:14 AM
Sep 2019

Jet fuel is $1.70/gal.
C17's have a fuel capacity of 28,000 gallons.
Each fill up is $47,000.
For $11 Million to be spent, there would need to be 230 trips.
No freaking way.

I'm not saying $11 Million isn't long gone, but there were nowhere near that many trips.
How much did we pay to lodge the military at his Dump at Doonbeg?

They should be court martialed and he should be flayed.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
49. are you sure there were nowhere near that many trips ?
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 12:36 PM
Sep 2019

From what Rachel was reporting, this is a routine supply route between the US and the middle-east. If they started diverting those C17 flights to systematically use that airport, it may not be that surprising.

DFW

(54,349 posts)
51. Assume they paid inflated rates for both fuel and Trump's hotel.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 01:44 PM
Sep 2019

The military is coming? Nothing too good for our men and women in uniform! Put them all in the Presidential suite!! What? There is only one presidential suite? Well, EVERY ONE of our service people deserves the presidential suite! For them, EVERY room is the Presidential suite. After all, the money IS going into the president's pocket. It costs £3000 a night? Cool, our taxpayers would never refuse only the best for our service people, right? Thirty people at £3000 a night? There's $110,00 per night right there.

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
59. You're on it.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:52 AM
Sep 2019

Padding the bill is standard for Trump. Using his government issued charge card is new, but his slow-witted grift is so open and low level. It's all about cash flow before his marks get wise.

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mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
55. Jet fuel a bit more expensive in UK.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 04:30 PM
Sep 2019

Last quote I saw was about $2.36 per US gallon. But still 165 trips? Yikes!

sagesnow

(2,824 posts)
27. I read your OP as "She has absolutely Law-dropping stuff"
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:34 AM
Sep 2019

Seemed apropos considering all the laws tRump is breaking.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
28. I want to know what was on the C17's that landed in Scotland & where were they coming from
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 08:55 AM
Sep 2019


I’m dead serious and I think a lot would be revealed by those answers and might explain “why” they landed - not just to keep the Scottish airport Trump’s resort depends on.

Meanwhile the irony is not list that Trump is not only dismantling all the Obama era penalties against Russia after the invasion of Ukraine and annexation of Crimea, but then bribe the Ukrainians and help him steal an election (again).


This is so beyond fucked up

grumpyduck

(6,232 posts)
36. He gets all the blame (mostly),
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:18 AM
Sep 2019

but it's those assholes in Congress that are enabling him. Get THEM outta there.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
40. And yet, he still sits on his throne.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 09:52 AM
Sep 2019

We gotta keep our political aspirations intact, right? Or in other words, keep our powder dry.

Paladin

(28,252 posts)
43. Yeah, I'll withold my enthusiasm on this until something is fucking DONE about it.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 11:01 AM
Sep 2019

I'm not holding my breath. We're going to dry-powder our way into a right-wing dictatorship before too much longer.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
54. I can't believe there's still nothing about this on either HuffPo or the CNN site.
Sat Sep 7, 2019, 03:14 PM
Sep 2019

IMO, it's a huge, freaking deal. Maybe someone needs to put a face on it and locate someone from the flight crew for an interview.

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