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malaise

(268,693 posts)
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:31 AM Sep 2019

Anyone else notice that as soon as the scandal with the Con's property

in Scotland and the Armed Forces hit the media, he suddenly had an imaginary meeting (that no one else can corroborate) to end the war in Afghanistan.
This raving lunatic really thinks he's running a Reality TV show. Distract, distract, distract.

Justice is coming MoFo

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Anyone else notice that as soon as the scandal with the Con's property (Original Post) malaise Sep 2019 OP
I don't think the majority of those-- even minimally informed-- believe the story. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #1
We're dealing with a dangerous lunatic malaise Sep 2019 #3
Hopefully the Scotland piece resonates. I was referring to not believing the Afghanistan story... hlthe2b Sep 2019 #5
Well he's attempting to use this imaginary meeting to cover up malaise Sep 2019 #8
Isn't it so amusing that the Taliban abruptly cancelled the imaginary meetings? lark Sep 2019 #15
His last trip to Scotland they ragged him mercilessly and... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #10
the horrifying thing about trump lillypaddle Sep 2019 #50
It's the REPUBLICANS pangaia Sep 2019 #37
Ha malaise Sep 2019 #47
"Cool Runnings"... Totally Tunsie Sep 2019 #58
wow! i HAD NO IDEA...Of course, there is nothing new about that... pangaia Sep 2019 #62
Jamaica also has a Iditarod (sp) guy who had run for a couple of years - Mush Mon Hestia Sep 2019 #66
GOPers are pilfering our tax dollars Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #69
They don't mind being robbed, as long as liberals get owned in the process jmowreader Sep 2019 #71
So sick of this bullshit! smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #2
Kleptocracy by the kakistocracy malaise Sep 2019 #4
Sadly most have "caught on", they just don't care. They're bullies not patriots. nt WePurrsevere Sep 2019 #9
I dunno, smirk blm Sep 2019 #12
Trying not to picture that. 47of74 Sep 2019 #44
What's dumber than a Trump? Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #26
Oh Snap! lunatica Sep 2019 #56
It is a scandal. kentuck Sep 2019 #6
Trump announced cancelling the meeting yesterday and said they were coming "tonight". brewens Sep 2019 #7
Yep - he will be exposed yet again malaise Sep 2019 #11
There is no possible way that "Taliban leaders" are in touch with the Trump administration. yardwork Sep 2019 #14
That part is true. There is peace discussions happening now Arazi Sep 2019 #16
Who in Trump's administration is competent enough to organize peace talks? yardwork Sep 2019 #21
Zalmay Khalilzad. I expect we'll see his resignation imminently after this Arazi Sep 2019 #29
Now that Trump knows about it he'll destroy it. yardwork Sep 2019 #33
Doubtful. He desperately wants out of Afghanistan to claim a "win". Has "promised" to do it Arazi Sep 2019 #35
I hadn't realized it was that bad. Our media ignores this. yardwork Sep 2019 #38
The Taliban.just bombed the shit out of Kabul Arazi Sep 2019 #41
Trump acts this way around all dictators. He's a coward. yardwork Sep 2019 #43
Didn't Bush have some Iraqi clown living in England malaise Sep 2019 #48
Recalling those "productive trade deal calls" with China Zambero Sep 2019 #46
I don't think he can draw an airplane rusty fender Sep 2019 #60
I'm beginning to think his pushing of sharpiegate is distraction, too. marble falls Sep 2019 #13
K&R... spanone Sep 2019 #17
And CBS Sunday morning Susan Calvin Sep 2019 #18
He would never invite Scarsdale Sep 2019 #20
Also Disaffected Sep 2019 #49
Even the movie "Wag the Dog" PatSeg Sep 2019 #19
Must be something real bad coming. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #22
China called to corroborate, so there, nyaaah JHB Sep 2019 #23
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Sep 2019 #40
Yep, X 1000 SayItLoud Sep 2019 #24
Hair Rump will lie about the lie, modify, spin and deflect. KY_EnviroGuy Sep 2019 #25
+1 leftstreet Sep 2019 #36
Imaginary meeting. Coz he NEVER works. Ever. Mc Mike Sep 2019 #27
Do I go China Ultra 3x Long YINN or China Ultra 3x Short YANG? bucolic_frolic Sep 2019 #28
And his imaginary meeting was scheduled at CAMP DAVID Captain Zero Sep 2019 #30
I share your perception and sentiments, Malaise PufPuf23 Sep 2019 #31
Can you even imagine MontanaMama Sep 2019 #32
SQUIRREL!!! 2naSalit Sep 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #39
He is no doubt trying to find someone to corroborate his story.... QED Sep 2019 #42
Sadly not imaginary. Here's the Taliban statement progressoid Sep 2019 #45
no where stevesinpa Sep 2019 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2019 #79
He thinks we're all as dumb as Eric Maru Kitteh Sep 2019 #51
Ignore the orange man behind the curtain. guillaumeb Sep 2019 #52
Why doesn't he just resign. He could make up some bull chit story about this being to much of a Oppaloopa Sep 2019 #53
He's not going to resign until he's filled his coffers with all the taxpayer monies he can. llmart Sep 2019 #74
Headline: Trump fails miserably in Taliban negotiations - No Afghan withdrawal in sight. lame54 Sep 2019 #54
And meanwhile our top rated post on DU 2 days ago was...memes. MadDAsHell Sep 2019 #55
Donny Trump's Big Book of Fake Distractions Blue Owl Sep 2019 #57
More like malaise Sep 2019 #59
You said it -- Encyclopedia Twitannica! Blue Owl Sep 2019 #64
DUzy! Damn that 's good malaise Sep 2019 #67
proves he knows right and wrong Marthe48 Sep 2019 #61
He's done that all his effin' life malaise Sep 2019 #63
just in case he pleads insanity Marthe48 Sep 2019 #68
Absolutely! dawnie51 Sep 2019 #65
"The Real Donald tRump Is A TV Character". BigmanPigman Sep 2019 #70
He really believes he can pull anything he wants off and get away with it. YOHABLO Sep 2019 #72
K&R I hope you are right about justice coming malaise real Cannabis calm Sep 2019 #73
It was so secret that..... calguy Sep 2019 #76
I bet Drump has about 2 dozen distractions lined up, rehearsed and ready to go any time something Doitnow Sep 2019 #77
When republicans say look over here, look over there? pwb Sep 2019 #78

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
1. I don't think the majority of those-- even minimally informed-- believe the story.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:34 AM
Sep 2019

Who knows how to judge the "twittersphere," but surely a lot of posts that echo us on DU.

hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
5. Hopefully the Scotland piece resonates. I was referring to not believing the Afghanistan story...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:38 AM
Sep 2019

malaise

(268,693 posts)
8. Well he's attempting to use this imaginary meeting to cover up
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:41 AM
Sep 2019

the kleptocracy. No one believes him. Will be nice to read what Pompeo says on all those talk shows today. I won't be watching.

lark

(23,061 posts)
15. Isn't it so amusing that the Taliban abruptly cancelled the imaginary meetings?
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:00 AM
Sep 2019

Also funny that the notice came from dumb donnie and not them.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. His last trip to Scotland they ragged him mercilessly and...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:49 AM
Sep 2019

I believe he lost the windmill fight.

This time they have no use for Pence at all. The fueling thing might have some leg to it, though.

The Afghanistan thing is just pathetic. Much worse then scribbling on a map.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
50. the horrifying thing about trump
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:48 AM
Sep 2019

is no matter how outlandish something is, it could very well be true. Or not.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
37. It's the REPUBLICANS
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:35 AM
Sep 2019

That's my mantra from now on.

We need to lay all this on REPUBLICAN TRAITORS

REPUBLICAN TRAITORS
REPUBLICAN TRAITORS
REPUBLICAN TRAITORS
REPUBLICAN TRAITORS

It is THEY who are responsible for this take down of the USA..




PS- How does Jamaica have a bobsled team., anyway?

malaise

(268,693 posts)
47. Ha
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:34 AM
Sep 2019

That bobsled team is a fascinating story linked to a white Jamaican with tourist interests in St Ann- turned out to be a tourism promotional stroke of genius

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
62. wow! i HAD NO IDEA...Of course, there is nothing new about that...
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:00 PM
Sep 2019

I always root for them in the winter olympics...

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
66. Jamaica also has a Iditarod (sp) guy who had run for a couple of years - Mush Mon
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:33 PM
Sep 2019

Jimmy Buffett sponsored the guy. Kinda sorta a song for Alaska - "Turn Up the Heat & Chill the 'Rose'"

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,250 posts)
69. GOPers are pilfering our tax dollars
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 05:10 PM
Sep 2019

They're ripping our government to shreds while shovelling the treasury into their campaign donors' pockets. How can the trumpers not see themselves being robbed?

blm

(113,010 posts)
12. I dunno, smirk
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:53 AM
Sep 2019

A whole bunch of them are pretty damn dumb. They couldn’t catch on to his crap if he was squatting on their front lawns with his pants down.

He’d hold out his hand and say they owe him 100.00 for the Trump Fertilizer.

They’d hand over their wallets.

brewens

(13,538 posts)
7. Trump announced cancelling the meeting yesterday and said they were coming "tonight".
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:40 AM
Sep 2019

I suppose they will claim he cancelled before the Taliban leaders flight left, but it would appear that they should have been on the way at the time of the announcement.

I'm pretty sure Taliban leaders don't have offices right in Kabul. For them to be coming here, you'd think they would have been escorted by our military and been travelling to probably Kabul to fly out. There would have to be proof any of that was going on. Messages sent about the cancellation and orders issued to turn around and take them back. If it was real, it can be proven if Trump wants, and he's going to want to. But he can't so it will be interesting what excuses they give.

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
14. There is no possible way that "Taliban leaders" are in touch with the Trump administration.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 08:54 AM
Sep 2019

No way.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
16. That part is true. There is peace discussions happening now
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:04 AM
Sep 2019

The ridiculous part is the claim they were about to imminently come to Camp David. That's a lie

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
35. Doubtful. He desperately wants out of Afghanistan to claim a "win". Has "promised" to do it
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:34 AM
Sep 2019

Unfortunately the deal he's willing to strike is (of course) the absolute worst since he's fine just walking away without any concessions.

I fully expect at least 100 public executions of empowered female lawmakers, doctors, journalists etc by the Taliban as soon as we skip out.

Khalilzad has been walking a tightrope, doing what he can but my guess is this latest stunt is probs a bridge too far even for him.

Fyi, #Traitor believes he can simply magick up a deal if he personally meets with the Afghan and Taliban leaders, fucking moron

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
41. The Taliban.just bombed the shit out of Kabul
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:44 AM
Sep 2019

Because they object to having the Afghan president (!) in the meetings. Ashraf Ghani is actually being left out of negotiations by the US to try to appease the Taliban, that's how desperate #Traitor is for a deal

It's madness(true delusional madness perhaps?). The notion that #Traitor fabricated a meeting at Camp David is fucking delusional

yardwork

(61,538 posts)
43. Trump acts this way around all dictators. He's a coward.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

Trump blusters and makes big promises, then caves in. He's done this all his life. It's why he's failed as a business man over and over again. It's why the mafia and Putin own him. Now he's failing the U.S. the same way.

Our media are complicit because they report the lies as news. And our people are complicit because most of us can't be bothered to read or find out what's really going on.

So far, Trump has elevated the legitimacy of North Korea's dictator without getting anything in return, given away elections and God knows what else to Russia with nothing in return for us, handed China a global economic victory over us, and now he's going to hand Afghanistan over to the Taliban.

I hate him so much.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
48. Didn't Bush have some Iraqi clown living in England
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:37 AM
Sep 2019

assisting him with the illegal invasion and occupation?

The Con is no Jimmy Carter

Zambero

(8,962 posts)
46. Recalling those "productive trade deal calls" with China
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019

A couple weeks ago. Fake news personified, in order to obscure actual news. And now for an encore, no doubt one of many.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
20. He would never invite
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:33 AM
Sep 2019

visitors to Camp David since he does not own it. He HAS to make money from everything humanely possible. I want to know what Ivanka is doing with that $100 million she got to promote women's business worldwide? The tRumps treat the Treasury like it is petty cash.

PatSeg

(47,260 posts)
19. Even the movie "Wag the Dog"
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:27 AM
Sep 2019

wasn't as ridiculous as this presidency. Trump summed it up three years ago with his shooting someone on Fifth Avenue remark. At the time, even he was incredulous, now he just takes it for granted.

SayItLoud

(1,701 posts)
24. Yep, X 1000
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:12 AM
Sep 2019

And I do hope (actually pray) that till the ends of time (his) he and his crime family will be hounded and held accountable. Not with white collar fines but with PRISON time.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
25. Hair Rump will lie about the lie, modify, spin and deflect.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:16 AM
Sep 2019
It will all come down something like this.....

First lie:

"Major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of major Taliban leaders and, separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet with me at Camp David on Sunday."

First spin:

"Our military people were making the arrangement for the visit but encountered difficulties over travel".

Modification:

"Talks were held about a possible meeting with Taliban and Afghani officials".

Second lie:

"U.S. media misinterpreted the words "were going to" to mean it really was happening."

Statement by State Dept. person on Sunday talk show a year from now:

"We chatted up a few street people in Kabul and found out unfortunately, the Taliban were on annual summer break and President Ghani's wife had a bad cold".

Truth:

tRump talked about the idea sent to him by Steve King with one of his minders while on the toilet.

KY..........


Captain Zero

(6,783 posts)
30. And his imaginary meeting was scheduled at CAMP DAVID
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:24 AM
Sep 2019

where he wouldn't be making any money off of it. How convenient. Now it is making sense why he was visiting Camp David himself before the hurricane. They probably thought the Irish and Scottish resort graft stories were going to hit sooner than they actually did, and he would be out in front of it by being at Camp David and not out on one of his golf courses. But they probably couldn't keep him there due to his adhd for getting to one of his places.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
31. I share your perception and sentiments, Malaise
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
Sep 2019

The part about justice and breaking the hold of Trump and the malignant GOP is most worrisome.

MontanaMama

(23,295 posts)
32. Can you even imagine
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
Sep 2019

if President Obama invited Taliban leaders to fucking Camp David anywhere near September 11th? Heads would explode! That said, all of this bullshit is completely made up. Nobody at the WH has Afghanistan and the Taliban in their Rolodex. These people can’t order lunch let alone organize peace talks.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
34. SQUIRREL!!!
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
Sep 2019

That's how he thinks, it's all a distraction. There would not ever be Taliban coming to DC or CD without anyone else knowing about it. It's just him trying to redirect attention away from the scandals of the moment. We need to stay focused on the process and desired result and learn to observe, assess as BS and get back to getting all evidence gathered and run them out of government.


Response to malaise (Original post)

QED

(2,747 posts)
42. He is no doubt trying to find someone to corroborate his story....
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:51 AM
Sep 2019

Someone to lie for him. He's installed so many lackies it shouldn't be too hard.

progressoid

(49,945 posts)
45. Sadly not imaginary. Here's the Taliban statement
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 11:20 AM
Sep 2019
"Both sides (U.S., Taliban) were busy with preparation for the announcement and signing the peace deal, but now the U.S president called off the peace dialogue... this will lead to more losses to the U.S.," said Zabihullah Mujahid, a Taliban spokesman, said in a statement. "Its (U.S.) credibility will be effected, its anti-peace stance will be exposed to the world, losses to lives and assets will increase," he said.

"We will stay committed if the path of negotiation is chosen instead of fighting...we won't be satisfied until there is an end to the foreign occupation of our country," he said.

stevesinpa

(143 posts)
75. no where
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:04 PM
Sep 2019

is any mention of any Taliban leaders coming to Camp David. no where is any mention of the subhuman talking with them face to face. yes there have been talks, but not how the subhuman puts it.

Response to stevesinpa (Reply #75)

Response to progressoid (Reply #45)

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
52. Ignore the orange man behind the curtain.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:14 PM
Sep 2019

And the US corporate media is happy to focus on every distraction Trump offers.

Oppaloopa

(866 posts)
53. Why doesn't he just resign. He could make up some bull chit story about this being to much of a
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 12:15 PM
Sep 2019

drain on his family etc.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
74. He's not going to resign until he's filled his coffers with all the taxpayer monies he can.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 09:33 PM
Sep 2019

He's got his grifting family members filling the coffers also. We have no idea of his financial situation because it's all lies and he blocks every move to see anything substantial. He may have next to no assets as far as we know. We do know that he had trouble getting loans though.

He didn't really want this gig but once he saw he could pull his con jobs on the entire American public he decided to use the tactics he's used his entire life and learned form his father and take us for all we're worth.

He's probably offshoring the proceeds on a daily basis.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
55. And meanwhile our top rated post on DU 2 days ago was...memes.
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 01:25 PM
Sep 2019

The media will feed us the distractions as long as we're hungry for them, and honestly, the evidence shows that even the politically astute here on DU are just as distractable as everyone else.

We're truly a pathetic society.

Marthe48

(16,898 posts)
68. just in case he pleads insanity
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 04:48 PM
Sep 2019

I think one of the definitions of sanity is knowing right from wrong

Yes, his whole misbegotten life.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
65. Absolutely!
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 03:33 PM
Sep 2019

This is how he has always operated; distractions all over the place. But instead of just dealing with a couple of contractors or a few pissed off tenants, he's trying to pull this shit off on the world stage, with EVERYONE watching. So it's not working. But he doesn't care, because Barr and McConnell and a few other toadies will protect him, in order to protect themselves.

calguy

(5,292 posts)
76. It was so secret that.....
Sun Sep 8, 2019, 10:43 PM
Sep 2019

the taliban and Afghanistan leaders didn't even know they were supposed to be there.

Doitnow

(1,103 posts)
77. I bet Drump has about 2 dozen distractions lined up, rehearsed and ready to go any time something
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 02:07 AM
Sep 2019

rotten he has done is about to become known. He just picks the one most apropos to the moment.

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