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KoKo

(84,711 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:06 PM Aug 2012

What's with this "Old White Men" thingy going on here?

I see this in comments on DU more frequently. I don't see "Old White Women" mentioned at all.....I guess because that might get one banned from DU or at least an alert or two for the Jury to decide.

What bothers me is that sometimes it's prefaced with "Angry" Old White Men....but not prefaced with defining the Politics of the "Old White Men or "Angry" Old White Men.

We Democrats here on DU need to be very careful with these broad statements that reek of "Ageism Discrimination."

There are many "Old White Men and Old White Women" who are long time Democratic Voters who vote in huge numbers CONSISTENTLY ...not just in the Presidential Elections...but for EVERY SINGLE state and Local Election.

Older Democrats (and Repugs) have the time to READ and the time to be more informed from a wide variety of sources (if they seek to) and to throw out a group of people because of their age would seem to be getting into territory that most Dems have always been against in the decades of the 20th Century and now our new 21st Century.

I would hope that the Democratic Party would not just be Positioning Itself....as the "Party of the YOUNG."

But, that's what this long time DU'er is picking up from what I read ....Not only Here...but, around the web in "comments" on Dem sites.

Just saying.....I don't think alienating a group of people because they are not "Young" is a good idea for our Party or this website.

Respectfully,
KoKo

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What's with this "Old White Men" thingy going on here? (Original Post) KoKo Aug 2012 OP
As an "old white woman," RebelOne Aug 2012 #1
Old-White Men, perhaps? dogknob Aug 2012 #2
I used it in a post on Clint Eastwood. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #3
I'm an old white man and I use it because it seems to be all the GOPers care about. Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #4
It's because old white women aren't as entitled as old white men. Cleita Aug 2012 #5
without old white men, there'd be no GOP. Zalatix Aug 2012 #6
thank you! shanti Aug 2012 #11
We have to strike a balance. Zalatix Aug 2012 #17
Eh... older white males ARE by far the right's largest demographic. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #7
Excellent point. We should insult all of them based on the actions of just some of them. Bucky Aug 2012 #8
Great! Let us know how it goes! Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #10
I was curious about political affilliation and the generations... CBHagman Aug 2012 #12
hmmm... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #9
It's from Lindsey Graham's (US Senator, Republican) honest comment: Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #13
I don't think it's something to be really concerned about. GoneOffShore Aug 2012 #14
I'm an old white man in a white part of a mostly white state, and I can vouch.... Scuba Aug 2012 #15
On Facebook I keep using "Lies and old white men - what else ya got" - seems to work. Booster Aug 2012 #16
I'm an old white guy, and I'm considering resenting this title. I'll get back to you after the dimbear Aug 2012 #18
Those seem to be the only people courted by the GOP gollygee Aug 2012 #19

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
1. As an "old white woman,"
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:09 PM
Aug 2012

I see a lot of ageism here at DU. I am just happy I made to the age of 73 and hope to live at least 10 more years. And all you younger people better hope you live as long as I have with no serious health issues.

dogknob

(2,431 posts)
2. Old-White Men, perhaps?
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

Adding a hyphen might indicate that the words "old" and "white" refer more to ideas than they do to physical age.

I am now reminded of this...

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
3. I used it in a post on Clint Eastwood.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:11 PM
Aug 2012

especially the way he has redefined how I view the Republican Party.

I am 60 years old.

It also references a image from the Simpson's seen on the DU Home Page.

"Emit Old Man Yells at chair."

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
4. I'm an old white man and I use it because it seems to be all the GOPers care about.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:12 PM
Aug 2012

I want equality for all much more than I want to exploit the privileges that I was born to.

I won't apologize for having used it and I plan on using it again whenever it seems appropriate.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
5. It's because old white women aren't as entitled as old white men.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:14 PM
Aug 2012

Just make that white men. They have more privilege than the rest of us and that's a fact.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
11. thank you!
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:33 PM
Aug 2012

of course, there are some good old white men, but the angry ones usually fill the ranks of the GOP. i would think that the OP understands this...

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
17. We have to strike a balance.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:29 PM
Aug 2012

In truth, they're the life blood of the GOP, but it's also not fair to just piss on the whole demographic.

The Plutocracy has done a great job of dividing us already...

Curtland1015

(4,404 posts)
7. Eh... older white males ARE by far the right's largest demographic.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:18 PM
Aug 2012

BY FAR FAR FAR FAR FAR.

As a middle aged white male, I'll be there soon myself. I wouldn't get too offended by it, personally.

That said, I do see your point. Not every "55 plus" white male is a Republican. Far from it.

Plus, the "young" always mistrust the "old". That's a trend that I don't think is EVER going to go out of style!

Bucky

(53,997 posts)
8. Excellent point. We should insult all of them based on the actions of just some of them.
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:20 PM
Aug 2012

I'm going to go berate my father this afternoon!

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
12. I was curious about political affilliation and the generations...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:40 PM
Aug 2012

...and have gotten really sick of how the media treat every poll as an excuse to lapse into cognitive distortions based on a few variations in percentage points.

Here's an interesting look at the trends within generations -- the "Greatest Generation," the Silent Generation, baby boomers, Gen X, and Millennials.

[url]http://www.people-press.org/2011/11/03/section-1-how-generations-have-changed/[/url]

 

a geek named Bob

(2,715 posts)
9. hmmm...
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:21 PM
Aug 2012

1.) I think it really depends on the concept of "old." I'm pretty sure we can quickly come up with an agreement as to what "white" constitutes (even if my ancestors on my father's side weren't listed as such...)

2.) I know a few republicans. They seem to be more afraid of the memes surrounding Democrats, then they are happy/excited about their candidates. (Mind you, the republicans I get along with, peg me as a wannabe Franklin, so there may be a certain amount of free-form nostalgia ruling their collective mental roosts...)

3.) I don't see how the Republican party can maintain its current form, for more than about 10 years.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
13. It's from Lindsey Graham's (US Senator, Republican) honest comment:
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 06:47 PM
Aug 2012
“The demographics race we’re losing badly,” said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (S.C.). “We’re not generating enough angry white guys to stay in business for the long term.”


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/30/1125916/-Angry-white-guy-bemoans-lack-of-angry-white-guys-in-Republican-Party
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
15. I'm an old white man in a white part of a mostly white state, and I can vouch....
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:04 PM
Aug 2012

... for the fact that there's plenty of angry, racist asswipes of both sexes and all ages.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
18. I'm an old white guy, and I'm considering resenting this title. I'll get back to you after the
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:33 PM
Aug 2012

election.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
19. Those seem to be the only people courted by the GOP
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 07:35 PM
Aug 2012

Though I know plenty of old white men voting for Obama.

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