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kentuck

(111,051 posts)
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:16 AM Sep 2019

Do Trump supporters love their country?

We are all Americans. We are not usually in the habit of questioning another citizen's patriotism.

However, we cannot help but be skeptical of what some folks are able to overlook. Their loyalty to Donald Trump is beyond all bounds of normalcy and decency. We all have kinfolks that we can relate to.

There is no doubt but that Donald Trump is a liar and a cheat. He has always been a liar and a cheat, long before he entered the White House. That is no big deal for his supporters. What about the Clintons, they ask?

Being a "businessman" does not give one the privilege or the right to ignore the laws of our Constitution. A president cannot make "deals" for himself and pretend it is in the interest of all America. He cannot steal from the American taxpayers.

According to legal documents from the Michael Cohen investigation, Donald Trump is an "unindicted co-conspirator" in paying off a porn star and a Playboy bunny, to keep them from talking just before the election in 2016. It is a big deal. For all Americans. If it had been made public, Donald Trump probably would not be sitting in the White House today?

As difficult as it may be to accept for his supporters, Donald Trump is stealing money from the American taxpayers. We have known since 2016 that he had money connections to Russia and Saudi Arabia. We still do not know the extent of the connections. Thanks to his supporters, they never thought it was important. After all, he was a "businessman".

All politics aside, if you love your country you cannot let this continue. We now hear Donald Trump is using the military to stuff his own pockets. He is ordering the military to stay at his hotels and golf courses and re-fuel huge transport planes with jet fuel close to his establishments, instead of at a military installation. This cannot be acceptable to any American, Trump supporter or not.

There comes a time when one has to take their head out of the sand and open their eyes and look around. Trump supporters have created a situation that is untenable. It is up to them to help us get out of it. Or maybe they don't love America as much as they pretend?

To cover up their eyes, ears, and mouth, and shut out all disagreeable thought, is no longer acceptable. The country is in dire straights and it is the Trump supporters that put it there. It is no longer enough to say, "But we didn't get Hillary". It is not up to the opponents of Trump to rescue this country. It is up to the folks that put us in this mess. They know who they are. And we know who they are.

Yes, these words are probably a waste of breath and effort but sometimes things just need to be said. We cannot save those that do not wish to be saved. We can waste no more time on them. It is too valuable and too important.

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hatrack

(59,574 posts)
1. They love a country that doesn' t exist and never has . . .
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:22 AM
Sep 2019

The Murca of their dreams is a Chick tract with NASCAR logos stuffed up the barrel of an AR-15.

It is believed to exist somewhere in Trump's ass.

LonePirate

(13,407 posts)
2. They love what they think the country was back in the early 1800s.
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:23 AM
Sep 2019

For some reason, they stop looking fondly upon the US beginning around 1865.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. They love themselves
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:34 AM
Sep 2019

and their own subjective delusions about what is the "real" country. Their subjective version of the country is white, christian, selfish, undisciplined, and worships money and guns, and justified at hating others.

Bettie

(16,060 posts)
4. They love what they think their country used to be
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 07:37 AM
Sep 2019

and they want to "return" to a time that never was.

They are people who are able to assume that any problems they have are due to the "other" screwing them over when, in fact, most of the people of the red hat woulds (do) screw anyone over to make a penny or simply to make them feel better.

If it weren't for the "other", they'd all be rich or some such nonsense.

I tire of these people. They need to face reality.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
6. Based upon their absolute hatred....
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 08:03 AM
Sep 2019

....for more than half of the people who live in this country, I would say no. Love of country does not work that way.

DFW

(54,272 posts)
7. First, you should ask them just what they think "their" country is.
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 08:04 AM
Sep 2019

These are not people who sing "This land is your land, this land is my land."

I'm betting less than 5% of them who live outside of New England could name four or more New England States. I'm also betting they couldn't name three National Parks and their locations outside of their home states. I would also dare suspect they have no clue who the first six presidents of the US were (much less in which order), or what the three branches of our government are.

I get the impression that plenty of them, maybe a majority, know of "their" country what they see on TV and what is within a 50 mile radius of where they live.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
8. they love the past when minorites and women did not have rights . they hate the country that elected
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 08:06 AM
Sep 2019

Obama president.

they thank russia for attacking the elections to help trump win.

Initech

(100,031 posts)
11. No. They love this country's symbolism.
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 09:37 AM
Sep 2019

They couldn't care less about how this country was founded, actual American history, or what's really in the constitution. They care about who worships the flag and Jesus more.

To quote the late great George Carlin: "Politicians hide behind 3 things - the flag, the Bible and children. I consider these things to be symbols and I leave those to the symbol minded."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,391 posts)
14. Their version of it maybe (which is also, coincidentally, Trump's)
Mon Sep 9, 2019, 10:31 AM
Sep 2019

Not any version of it that exists in reality.

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