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cvoogt

(949 posts)
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:10 PM Sep 2019

Outrageous WaPo hit piece today: "Valerie Plame's claim that Scooter Libby leaked her identity"

The ad strongly suggests that Plame was an undercover operative in places such as Iran and North Korea, when that was not the case. (She was under diplomatic cover in Greece.) Plame, however, was operations chief at the Joint Task Force on Iraq of the Counterproliferation Division of the CIA’s clandestine operations directorate when her name was publicly disclosed in a column written by Robert Novak and published in The Washington Post on July 14, 2003.

But was Scooter Libby, Vice President Richard B. Cheney’s chief of staff, the source of the leak? Libby was convicted of perjury and lying to the FBI during its investigation, but he was not charged with leaking Plame’s name.

(Note: The writer of this fact check was subpoenaed as a defense witness and briefly testified during Libby’s trial.)


(emphasis mine)

This is a WaPo "fact check" piece written by Glenn Kessler, who was a defense witness during Scooter Libby's trial. Unbelievable journalistic malpractice if you ask me.

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Outrageous WaPo hit piece today: "Valerie Plame's claim that Scooter Libby leaked her identity" (Original Post) cvoogt Sep 2019 OP
Washington Post is horrible JonLP24 Sep 2019 #1
Is there proof Libby did this? NCLefty Sep 2019 #2
That isn't quite the point. cvoogt Sep 2019 #4
Is anyone arguing an absolute proof exists? LanternWaste Sep 2019 #16
Try Richard Armitage 3Hotdogs Sep 2019 #3
yes but you miss the point. cvoogt Sep 2019 #5
Link doesn't work. Mosby Sep 2019 #6
fixed the link cvoogt Sep 2019 #7
The chorus to end Kessler's BS column is growing sharedvalues Sep 2019 #8
Well, some journalist he is cvoogt Sep 2019 #11
Hold on a sec...if I recall correctly, it was Powells CoS (Armitage?) who let slip to someone Volaris Sep 2019 #9
Armitage was the original person to let it slip cvoogt Sep 2019 #10
Got it. Thanks for helping my memory out there! Volaris Sep 2019 #15
I really get annoyed about fact-checkers sometimes Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #12
yup cvoogt Sep 2019 #13
Absolutely Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2019 #17
My question is did W know everything or just part of it? Hortensis Sep 2019 #14

cvoogt

(949 posts)
4. That isn't quite the point.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:34 PM
Sep 2019

The point is the person who wrote this 'fact check' item testified in Libby's defense. WaPo should never have let this person write a fact check on this; it's a huge conflict of interest.

Libby was convicted of perjury, obstruction of justice, and lying to federal investigators, all related to the investigation into who outed Plame (he at the very least assisted in outing her). Armitage expressed remorse; according to him he inadvertently outed Plame. But Libby intentionally outed her afterwards, then lied about it to investigators, and got convicted for it.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter_Libby#Verdict and I am sure there are other, better sources out there.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. Is anyone arguing an absolute proof exists?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:11 PM
Sep 2019

Or we're just all super skeptical because it's cool?

cvoogt

(949 posts)
5. yes but you miss the point.
Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:35 PM
Sep 2019

The so-called WaPo fact checker testified in Scooter Libby's defense. Terrible, slanted journalism.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
9. Hold on a sec...if I recall correctly, it was Powells CoS (Armitage?) who let slip to someone
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 12:15 AM
Sep 2019

Who Plame really was n what she did. Not sure if it was Libby. What Scooter did with it on his bosses orders is up for debate, as I think that's what Scooter lied to the investigators about.

Again, without going back and looking, its hazy.

cvoogt

(949 posts)
10. Armitage was the original person to let it slip
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:25 AM
Sep 2019

and he expressed remorse. Libby leaked this info to several people intentionally, then lied about it to investigators, and was sent to jail for it. Kessler (the WaPo fact check columnist) was a defense witness for Libby. That is the problem here.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,391 posts)
12. I really get annoyed about fact-checkers sometimes
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:32 AM
Sep 2019

As it seems like they only focus on very specific bits of information, some of which may be murky and nuanced and ends up missing the larger point, which, in this case, is that somebody (or somebodies) in the Bush (mis-)Administration outed her as a CIA officer in retaliation for her husband's exposure of the Niger Uranium/Iraq hoax, which directly challenged the WH's case for going to war in Iraq at the time .

cvoogt

(949 posts)
13. yup
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:16 PM
Sep 2019

Armitage outer her by accident and Libby furthered that on purpose. We were lied into war, and they outed a spy out of spite. It'll leave a bad taste in my mouth forever.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. My question is did W know everything or just part of it?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:18 PM
Sep 2019

Cheney was for sure involved, Libby the fall guy for treason.

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