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NBC News is reporting that Michael Cohen has signed a "proffer agreement" with District Att (Original Post) Gothmog Sep 2019 OP
K&R. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #1
Go git 'em MC! democratisphere Sep 2019 #2
Yes! democrank Sep 2019 #3
Please stay safe, MC. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #4
Stay away from high floor windows that open, and get a food taster. George II Sep 2019 #28
My thoughts exactly, George. sheshe2 Sep 2019 #40
More than anything else, I think . . . MrModerate Sep 2019 #45
Who would blame him? Scarsdale Sep 2019 #78
stay away from substitute prison guards and broken security cameras Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2019 #60
He will also need to stay away from stairs, umbrellas and take to wearing gloves at all times cstanleytech Sep 2019 #63
don't forget the disposal. and the coffee maker, and never take a small plane flight certainot Sep 2019 #72
Please please please please please Leghorn21 Sep 2019 #5
Documents . . . Iliyah Sep 2019 #6
ie: sheshe2 Sep 2019 #41
YES bluestarone Sep 2019 #47
Trump is facing 'very unpleasant' jail sentence in New York after Michael Cohen flipped again Gothmog Sep 2019 #7
And we need to be careful and stay united in November 2020. Blue_true Sep 2019 #38
Agreed Gothmog Sep 2019 #53
I'm sure he knows LOTS BUT bluestarone Sep 2019 #8
He was customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #18
Actually yes i do bluestarone Sep 2019 #20
I do too. He was an absolute creep, but I think his shame is real. hlthe2b Sep 2019 #23
Everybody customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #33
THAT is 100% TRUE!! bluestarone Sep 2019 #34
My parents said that about Nixon and Watergate. I can still see my Mother's shocked expression hlthe2b Sep 2019 #42
There is a world of difference customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #49
Having just listened to a half dozen podcasts revisiting the history of Watergate, the spin that the hlthe2b Sep 2019 #51
Thanks for saying this. murielm99 Sep 2019 #74
OK, so they were not statesmen customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #85
I know someone who worked for him rhiannon55 Sep 2019 #62
Revenge has a way of outing the truth lunatica Sep 2019 #84
Not sure if it's shame, FoxNewsSucks Sep 2019 #67
Cohen may be out for revenge Poiuyt Sep 2019 #69
He was pretty credible when he testified to the House NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #29
Yeah, and where did THAT get us? MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #39
If you look at Trump's polling NewJeffCT Sep 2019 #81
Hope he's in protective custody...n/t bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #9
Agreee...Look what happened to Epstein.. he knew a lot too...... nt mitch96 Sep 2019 #14
Yeah... Newest Reality Sep 2019 #43
"watch out for Epstein-Barr disease" mitch96 Sep 2019 #82
At this point, and with AGBarrs record of keeping inmates safe (Epstein)... Volaris Sep 2019 #15
Is this a State AG vs a Fed? N/T? bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #26
I THINK its southern district of New York, which is a federal judical district. Volaris Sep 2019 #65
No, it's the Manhattan DA, NOT federal DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #79
Super concerned. triron Sep 2019 #64
I hope he sings long and loudly UpInArms Sep 2019 #10
Keep the bdamomma Sep 2019 #11
awesome! let the good times roll* splunge63 Sep 2019 #12
For those of us not fluent in Legalese bluevoter4life Sep 2019 #13
Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements... asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #19
Good answer Gothmog Sep 2019 #32
Good question bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #24
I just posted this..comment #19..have at it.. asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #35
Thank you. N/T bluecollar2 Sep 2019 #44
WOW!.... asiliveandbreathe Sep 2019 #16
Good!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #17
NO PARDONS AVAILABLE, Trump and family members! hlthe2b Sep 2019 #21
Sounds like good news, Gothmog. brer cat Sep 2019 #22
City/state court, not Federal! When it comes down on trump there will be NO pardon possible! George II Sep 2019 #25
K&R... spanone Sep 2019 #27
Get ready for somebody to "hang themself" again.... Hulk Sep 2019 #30
Or fall out MFM008 Sep 2019 #80
They could get away with it once. Twice would just be too obvious. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #90
Hope he has something new to say that he hasn't already said to investigators, Congress, Hoyt Sep 2019 #31
That's what I don't understand, didn't he offer everything already? dem4decades Sep 2019 #48
Cleanse your soul, Michael; cleanse your soul. nt Hekate Sep 2019 #36
Jewish High Holy Days begin 9/27. Self reflection begins the month before MyMission Sep 2019 #58
Definitely a worthy thing to pray for... Hekate Sep 2019 #77
So many high hopes. So far nothing ever pans out. mucifer Sep 2019 #37
Hey dude, don't "commit suicide." NBachers Sep 2019 #46
Need more popcorn! CaptainTruth Sep 2019 #50
Sorry but I will believe it when I see it. Trump is the new Pepsidog Sep 2019 #52
Same here. I've heard "this is it!!!" a couple dozen times nt oldsoftie Sep 2019 #56
I guess we'll see then. Kingofalldems Sep 2019 #66
it certainly isnt GOOD for him by any stretch. He'll be screaming "fake news!!" soon enough. oldsoftie Sep 2019 #70
Flippin' Mike!! greatauntoftriplets Sep 2019 #54
No Presidential Pardons for State Crimes... dlk Sep 2019 #55
State May be building case for filing false tax returns Gothmog Sep 2019 #57
K&R UTUSN Sep 2019 #59
Good. I'm one who thinks he has some remorse NastyRiffraff Sep 2019 #61
I never thought that I would say this MontanaMama Sep 2019 #68
From Mimi Rocah Gothmog Sep 2019 #71
Oh, very interesting! Thanks, Gothmog and Mimi. :) Hortensis Sep 2019 #86
knr triron Sep 2019 #73
How many times have we been through this b.s. with Cohen? I'm not holding my breath. C Moon Sep 2019 #75
I think he's still working for Trump. If all he's testified to behind closed doors is wiggs Sep 2019 #76
Ooooo! Thinks aren't settled then. ffr Sep 2019 #83
trump Could Be Facing Indictment In NY For Filing False Tax Returns Gothmog Sep 2019 #87
Manhattan D.A. subpoenas eight years of Trump's tax returns Gothmog Sep 2019 #88
kick for visibility triron Sep 2019 #89

sheshe2

(83,655 posts)
40. My thoughts exactly, George.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:53 PM
Sep 2019

He did some real shitty stuff in his life. I honestly think he is trying to atone for that.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
78. Who would blame him?
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:37 AM
Sep 2019

It is always the lower down the chain guys who suffer. The big crook usually walks. Hopefully this time will be different. The big cheese will finally face justice.

cstanleytech

(26,243 posts)
63. He will also need to stay away from stairs, umbrellas and take to wearing gloves at all times
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:25 PM
Sep 2019

to try and avoid Russian nerve toxins.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. Documents . . .
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:06 PM
Sep 2019

tapes, photographs. . . plenty of evidence!

I hope he has protection. Criminal Barr and t-rump are two not to be trusted at all.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. And we need to be careful and stay united in November 2020.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:52 PM
Sep 2019

Trump won't go down easily, he will burn down the house first.

bluestarone

(16,872 posts)
8. I'm sure he knows LOTS BUT
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:09 PM
Sep 2019

There better be NO lies here or he's toast! The TRUTH the WHOLE TRUTH and NOTHING but the TRUTH!

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
42. My parents said that about Nixon and Watergate. I can still see my Mother's shocked expression
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:55 PM
Sep 2019

when Eliot Richardson, William Ruckelshaus, John Dean (in particular) and several others stood up to and/or testified against him. Even some of his most staunch supporters ultimately told the truth (e.g., exposing existence of tapes, etc.)

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
49. There is a world of difference
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:21 PM
Sep 2019

between those serving in the Nixon administration, and those willing to work for Trump. Please recall, back then, we had GOP Senators with the balls to tell Tricky Dick that the jig was up. We have no such statesmen in the GOP today.

hlthe2b

(102,138 posts)
51. Having just listened to a half dozen podcasts revisiting the history of Watergate, the spin that the
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:25 PM
Sep 2019

R's were so honorable in going to the WH to tell Nixon it was time to go, is just that. They waited until they had NO choice. That "statesman" thing is bullshit.

Howard Baker and a few R's did show some spine in the hearings. But, John Dean committed crimes for Nixon. In that aspect, he is not that different than Cohen, though a better "man" in general certainly.


murielm99

(30,717 posts)
74. Thanks for saying this.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:51 AM
Sep 2019

I lived through it and was a Watergate junkie. If they could have gotten away with their corruption, Nixon would have finished his term. When I tell people this, many of them look at me like I am nuts. They did not suddenly "see the light!"

Remember, the Democrats were in power then, and so the checks and balances were working.

I read Dean's book and watched his testimony faithfully. I think he worked with lawyers to save his own butt and not to sound self-serving. He did some jail time. He is a better man because he had a trial by fire. He learned to be a better man because he was forced to look at himself and answer for his crimes. Maybe that will happen for Cohen. We will see.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
85. OK, so they were not statesmen
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 04:14 PM
Sep 2019

but in comparison to Trump's lackeys, they sort of look like that, maybe, through a looking-glass with forty-five years of dust on it.

rhiannon55

(2,671 posts)
62. I know someone who worked for him
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:21 PM
Sep 2019

years ago and has been in therapy for years for severe ptsd because of it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
84. Revenge has a way of outing the truth
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 02:42 PM
Sep 2019

If it takes the truth to bring Trump down, then that’s what we’ll get. Hopefully Trump will regret tossing Michael Cohn under the Trump Express bus.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,423 posts)
67. Not sure if it's shame,
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:50 PM
Sep 2019

or anger that he's the only one behind bars.

Either way, as long as he helps put tRumps behind bars I'm all for it.

Poiuyt

(18,117 posts)
69. Cohen may be out for revenge
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:11 PM
Sep 2019

I doubt if he's changed too much, but he's probably pissed that he did all these crimes for trump, and now he's in jail and trump is living the high life.

MyOwnPeace

(16,919 posts)
39. Yeah, and where did THAT get us?
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:53 PM
Sep 2019

Oh, wait, I'm not supposed to be "negative" about Democratic responses or actions....... that's not "supportive."

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
81. If you look at Trump's polling
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 08:14 AM
Sep 2019

for the week afterwards, it went down several points before the next distractions and scandals buried that story and Trump and the media continuing to promote the economy as great led to a rebound.

Sadly, my fear is that big testimony from the likes of Cohen, Mueller and others will be so scattered across the months that it will be ineffectual and forgotten

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
15. At this point, and with AGBarrs record of keeping inmates safe (Epstein)...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:20 PM
Sep 2019

The safest place for M.Cohen would be for the feds to let him camp out in Speaker Pelosi's office.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
19. Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements...
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:25 PM
Sep 2019

Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements between federal prosecutors and individuals under criminal investigation which permit these individuals to tell the government about their knowledge of crimes, with the supposed assurance that their words will not be used against them in any later proceedings.

Cohen has nothing to lose.....

Just a search away....

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
35. I just posted this..comment #19..have at it..
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:40 PM
Sep 2019

Proffer or "queen for a day" letters are written agreements between federal prosecutors and individuals under criminal investigation which permit these individuals to tell the government about their knowledge of crimes, with the supposed assurance that their words will not be used against them in any later proceedings.

Cohen has nothing to lose.....

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. City/state court, not Federal! When it comes down on trump there will be NO pardon possible!
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:28 PM
Sep 2019

The article says "city prosecutors" but may be referring to their location, not their jurisdiction.

I really hope Letitia James is on this, she's tough as nails.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
30. Get ready for somebody to "hang themself" again....
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:34 PM
Sep 2019

Can you see this coming? This guy needs protection, and he's most likely NOT going to get it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
90. They could get away with it once. Twice would just be too obvious.
Mon Sep 16, 2019, 08:36 PM
Sep 2019

These bastards are up to their necks in it. It is all going to come caving down on them one of these days. They can't avoid it forever.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. Hope he has something new to say that he hasn't already said to investigators, Congress,
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:35 PM
Sep 2019

etc. Otherwise, not expecting much.

MyMission

(1,849 posts)
58. Jewish High Holy Days begin 9/27. Self reflection begins the month before
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:39 PM
Sep 2019

Leading up to Rosh Hashanah, the new year. Then 10 days later is Yom Kippur, the day of atonement, when we fast and atone for our sins and transgressions.

I'd say he is off to a good start, reflecting, realizing if he comes clean with information, it will in fact help him to cleanse his soul.

I pray for him, for his soul and his safety.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
52. Sorry but I will believe it when I see it. Trump is the new
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:29 PM
Sep 2019

Last edited Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:46 PM - Edit history (1)

Teflon Don. A brazen criminal as slippery as they come. After 2 years of breathtaking Mueller reporting, I will believe it when I see the Shitler in handcuffs.

oldsoftie

(12,492 posts)
70. it certainly isnt GOOD for him by any stretch. He'll be screaming "fake news!!" soon enough.
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:20 PM
Sep 2019

News channels should just put that on a loop

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
61. Good. I'm one who thinks he has some remorse
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 10:18 PM
Sep 2019

But apart from that, being put in prison while the real perp is holding rallies, stuffing his face with junk food, and profiting off the presidency tends to focus the mind. Cohen is probably stewing angrily about the unfairness of it. Sure, he deserves jail time, but Donald Trump deserves it even more.

I hope he's angry enough to tell all. I have a feeling he is.

MontanaMama

(23,296 posts)
68. I never thought that I would say this
Wed Sep 11, 2019, 11:02 PM
Sep 2019

about Michael Cohen...but I’m afraid for his life. Either the Russians or the DOJ might want him dead.

C Moon

(12,209 posts)
75. How many times have we been through this b.s. with Cohen? I'm not holding my breath.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 12:53 AM
Sep 2019

There's something seriously creepy about him and everyone associated with Trump.

wiggs

(7,810 posts)
76. I think he's still working for Trump. If all he's testified to behind closed doors is
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 01:12 AM
Sep 2019

the same that we heard in front of congress, then he's given nothing. He said Trump is a racist, a misogynist, and a cheat. We knew all that already. He HAS to know a lot more about Russia and the 2016 election and obstruction and Flynn than we've heard him talk about. He's playing a con. He said he'd take a bullet for Trump and he is.

First rule when interpreting GOP confessions: if they confess to anything it's because the whole truth is much worse.

Believing that a life of threats, bullying, deceit, greed, and ambition suddenly changes in the light of day is a stretch. Almost like believing that a self centered, corrupt, immoral, greedy narcissist will give all that up and work for the greater good when elected president. Doesn't happen. Didn't happen.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
83. Ooooo! Thinks aren't settled then.
Thu Sep 12, 2019, 02:38 PM
Sep 2019

We need to get tRump out of the WH in 2020, so the Manhattan District Attorney's office can do what they do.

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