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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAll people are NOT created equal.
Let's get that out of the way right now. Some are smarter, some prettier, some with more motivation, skills, and opportunity than others. The list goes on to the limits of human characteristics. (Like it or not we are all snowflakes, as much as I hate that term being used as a label.)
When Obama ran he was labeled as an elitist because of his background. Trump got elected, in part, because he talked like he was one of the masses, even though he wasn't. He remains popular with his base because he still does. We all struggle with how to talk to our more conservative friends. Sometimes I ask them if they would let a person with no education do brain surgery on them. Let's ignore the die-hards who tell me if they were comfortable with them they would, no headway can be made, ever, with those folks. But for those who understand the point I ask:
"So who should lead the free-world, a common joe or the smartest fucking person you can find?"
I hope I've changed some minds about Trump. But I don't know, I honestly don't know.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)but in a truly democratic society everyone, in their diversity, should be equal under the law and right now we don't have that.
Jeffersons Ghost
(15,235 posts)A well-educated Thomas Jefferson and his advisers, knew that all men were not "created equal."
But, all men (at the time - not women) should be treated equally with "equal" opportunity and specific "inalienable rights."
Although, I have no intention of making ANY false accusations for an uninformed misrepresentation of the US Constitution, the headline is reminiscent of a Teflon Don interpretation, although the body copy isn't racist, like Trump crime syndicate hate-mongers would tweet.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)and no,we are not all snowflakes although I find the Right wing gets their feelings hurt far easier than the left.
Im not trying to change one single mind about Trump. He never hid what he is. Hatred and bigotry are a large part of why he was elected.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)Not one I want to share a beer with
concreteblue
(626 posts)I like drinking with people far smarter than me. I always learn something.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Using the word, "created" has interesting implications. It could have a religious connotation or merely refer to one's parents and the biology.
A being emerges, one way or another, into the World. Most humans emerge with basic and common attributes. From that point on, the surrounding culture inculcates concepts about the environment and the meanings associated with things. That varies.
These days nature and nurture, though there are still arguments about it, are not a dichotomy as much as a they are coextensive.
Intelligence is only one important factor for a leader, but there are also other factors that are important and I would think a well-rounded person who also has good emotional intelligence, philosophical proclivities, common sense, compassion and Wisdom as well as political skills and a diverse scope of knowledge would be the most appropriate choice. The Philosopher Kings come to mind here.
If we had carefully designed tests that avoided political bias, but covered a range of personality and intelligence factors in a candidate, that would be ideal. So far, we vet workers for part-time jobs more scrupulously and only rely on more superficial aspects that we can observe and often, anecdotal evidence.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)All people are created equal means that all have the same value, deserve the same basic respect, and have the same human rights. What youre talking about is whether all have the same abilities, which they obviously dont.
unblock
(52,195 posts)they do not buy the argument that skill, knowledge, talent, or even competence is a particularly desirable trait in a politician.
well, at least not when it comes to republicans.
they believe that all that is necessary or even appropriate is for the president to be representative of the people (well, again, republicans).
they argue that a president surrounds himself with smart people, as if the leading and decision-making a president does doesn't require any intelligence or wisdom, only a "representative" sense of the collective mood of the nation.
while having a finger on the pulse of the nation is obviously important, it hardly negates the need for a president to have many other talents and traits.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)brush
(53,764 posts)Why? Are you a trump supporter?
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)but our Constitution gives equal rights to everyone, time we stand for the Constitution and make it true. The person who gets the most votes should get the job.