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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:01 PM Sep 2019

The blue wave is fading and I am angry. We are beginning to look like a bunch of cowards.

You cannot tell me that there is nothing, immediately, that the democratic party can do without waiting forever on the courts that are now filled with rethug sycophants. Each day, millions of my fellow democrats awake feeling like Nancy and the party are going to make a move. At the end of the day we are left wondering if this corrupt administration will ever end!

Some days I have to turn off all news for a reset. The talking heads talk hope and then snatch it away, riding the tide of what will give them the greatest ratings. Dr. Martin Luther King speaks of the ultimate measure of a man, not when he is comfortable but when he is challenged. We have even resorted to being divided. I know we can meet the challenge.

Take drump's ass to prosecution anyway. This crap about a sitting president cannot be prosecuted is a crock. Put a law on the floor, even if it is rejected, that says he can go to jail. Please, Democratic legislators, give us hope again or you will never get another blue wave. Use AOC more if you are reluctant to speak out. She is fierce and will call them out without a filter. For God's sake, do something.

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The blue wave is fading and I am angry. We are beginning to look like a bunch of cowards. (Original Post) mfcorey1 Sep 2019 OP
You're not alone. nt cwydro Sep 2019 #1
Blue wave is strong as ever. Iliyah Sep 2019 #2
+1000 bronxiteforever Sep 2019 #11
Come on DownriverDem Sep 2019 #29
"For God's sake, do something!" handmade34 Sep 2019 #3
2018 was an anti trump wave, which enabled Dems to win the House. Period. empedocles Sep 2019 #4
Yes! And the Dem base has been lower-energy since then. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #20
I hate these whiny posts Cary Sep 2019 #5
People (me included) whine because kacekwl Sep 2019 #9
Never give up. Never surrender. Cary Sep 2019 #18
I really enjoyed Galaxy Quest. AJT Sep 2019 #21
You'll have to wait, you have no other choice. bearsfootball516 Sep 2019 #34
I'm trying. Some of us are stronger than others. Some words of encouragement mfcorey1 Sep 2019 #13
Wait. Cary Sep 2019 #16
I only speak for myself. I am not fading. LakeArenal Sep 2019 #6
FFS FrankBooth Sep 2019 #7
We can dump this bdamomma Sep 2019 #8
The problem there is that Bettie Sep 2019 #39
I'm with 'ya! MyOwnPeace Sep 2019 #10
LOL Scurrilous Sep 2019 #12
In 'normal' times, a POTUS this corrupt would have resigned leftstreet Sep 2019 #14
Beware of despair trolling jmbar2 Sep 2019 #19
Yes! Two kinds of trolling: "Trust Pelosi's secret plan" and despair trolling. sharedvalues Sep 2019 #22
I think that if bdamomma Sep 2019 #41
This!! Stop with the despair! Get off your a.. and do something Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #35
I think Virginias legislative elections will be the best indicator of how this blue wave will be nex Tiggeroshii Sep 2019 #15
Beginning to? hurple Sep 2019 #17
Unfortunately... Saint PeLSU Sep 2019 #24
Don't agree Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #36
Your "concern" is noted Tarc Sep 2019 #23
Dems could turn Washington upside down if they had the backbone and could stick together yaesu Sep 2019 #25
+1000 smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #26
Waves wear down walls, mf. We work like water, wear them down. We'll win this. Hang tough. ancianita Sep 2019 #27
One minute it's too early to pick a candidate... LakeArenal Sep 2019 #28
Frankly,... UncleTomsEvilBrother Sep 2019 #30
I trust Pelosi and the Dems in Congress gulliver Sep 2019 #31
As I do!! Anyone who thinks madam speaker is a push over, doesn't know her!! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #37
Relax relayerbob Sep 2019 #32
Absolutely! Thekaspervote Sep 2019 #38
YES the scale of corruption and lawbreaking lawlessness is beyond anything we've ever seen. Ligyron Sep 2019 #33
Do you have a specific suggestion? pnwmom Sep 2019 #40
People need to turn off the fucking television and put themselves out there. hunter Sep 2019 #42

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
20. Yes! And the Dem base has been lower-energy since then.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:58 PM
Sep 2019

Use the base! Back the base! Save the country!!!

Cary

(11,746 posts)
5. I hate these whiny posts
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:12 PM
Sep 2019

For God's sake get a grip and at least be good enough to be strong and disciplined through next November.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
9. People (me included) whine because
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:25 PM
Sep 2019

We're scared, worried, disgusted, angry at what our government has become. We have no law enforcement for assholes like trump, McConnell, Barr and any other rich, powerful MF'ers who break the law. We don't think waiting until 2020 is the appropriate cause of action. Apparently waiting another 13 months is no problem at all. Me I can't wait sorry.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
34. You'll have to wait, you have no other choice.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:37 PM
Sep 2019

I’m fine with impeachment, but I’m also realistic about the results. If he does get impeached, it’ll fail in the Senate, and he’ll still be running for president in 2020.

You say you aren’t willing to wait 13 months. You don’t have any other choice.

mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
13. I'm trying. Some of us are stronger than others. Some words of encouragement
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:43 PM
Sep 2019

might be better than hating feelings expressed in the post. There are some good days and there are some that kind of drag on your emotions. However, blue no matter who!!!

Cary

(11,746 posts)
16. Wait.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:54 PM
Sep 2019

I object to negativity and expressions of gloom and doom and I am accused of not being positive?

smh

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
39. The problem there is that
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 10:45 PM
Sep 2019

his history shows that he IS untouchable.

He has never, ever had any real consequence for any action he's taken.

So far, he has done whatever comes into his addled brain with zero consequences beyond a few "bazinga" moments and a couple of somewhat stern letters directed toward him. He has brought corruption to the DOJ to new and startling heights, he has little children taken from their parents and locked in cages and so fucking much more it makes my head hurt to think about it all.

Oh, and we've lost the judiciary for at least 20 years. He just sent a batch of new appointments to Moscow Mitch, who will likely have them placed by the end of the month. Yet another reward for his bad behavior. 1 in 6 federal judges are his, chosen specifically for their lack of ethics and devotion to right wing ideology by the Heritage Foundation.

Oh, and our side is utterly helpless to do anything.

So, tell me how this looks like he and his people aren't winning.

Heck, our side is reluctant to even use the power allocated by the constitution.


MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
10. I'm with 'ya!
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:25 PM
Sep 2019

Not everybody here agrees. Trust me, I know.
I've asked questions and have not gotten answers.
We can and should "support Democrats" - but we should be able to ask and expect them to do something!

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
14. In 'normal' times, a POTUS this corrupt would have resigned
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:52 PM
Sep 2019

Well, normal probably isn't the word because apparently the new normal assumes corruption is just another gossipy 15 minute scandal

jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
19. Beware of despair trolling
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:55 PM
Sep 2019

The fastest way for the bastards to consolidate control is to encourage despair and defeatism.

I don't see the blue wave fading in my neck of the woods. Take a look online at all the climate protests today. Those are not young Republicans.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
22. Yes! Two kinds of trolling: "Trust Pelosi's secret plan" and despair trolling.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:00 PM
Sep 2019

No!

Be active. Volunteer. Organize. Canvass. Call your reps and demand impeachment!

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
41. I think that if
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 05:13 PM
Sep 2019

enough of us scream this out to our Reps and Senators Impeachment they will follow our lead. People are fed up with this thug.

 

Tiggeroshii

(11,088 posts)
15. I think Virginias legislative elections will be the best indicator of how this blue wave will be nex
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 08:53 PM
Sep 2019

Just as it was in 2017

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
25. Dems could turn Washington upside down if they had the backbone and could stick together
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:03 PM
Sep 2019

it wouldn't be pretty, it would mean not working with the fascists on anything, it would mean being as nasty as the fascists, ir would mean doing to them what they would do to us if they had a chance. Remember, there is no such thing as a good republican.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
27. Waves wear down walls, mf. We work like water, wear them down. We'll win this. Hang tough.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:10 PM
Sep 2019

The old blue wave isn't fading, it's just a swell, gathering momentum. You can count on the tide turning.

It's hard to see, but Democrats are not failing, but working through the law.

Power is in the unseen undercurrent, while the surface looks as if we're just crashing. Until the wall cracks, collapses and goes under.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
28. One minute it's too early to pick a candidate...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:11 PM
Sep 2019

The next it’s we’ve expended all our energy and we haven’t even picked a candidate

30. Frankly,...
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:15 PM
Sep 2019

...I think "Blue Wave" was the best slogan for DEMS since "Hope and Change". Both were unifying cries that appealed to centrists and left leaning DEMS.

In classic DEM style, though, we've shelved the Blue Wave slogan for some reason. We were too successful with it, perhaps?

relayerbob

(6,544 posts)
32. Relax
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:25 PM
Sep 2019

It hasn't faded. Turn off the news. This all takes time, whether you, I or anyone else wants it to or not.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
33. YES the scale of corruption and lawbreaking lawlessness is beyond anything we've ever seen.
Fri Sep 20, 2019, 09:29 PM
Sep 2019

Certainly not in my or likely anyone here's lifetime. That is the problem, it's a big one and it demand immediate action of some type. Every day that goes by the more damage is done and the more it seems to get normalized.

Cut off their funds or something at least.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
40. Do you have a specific suggestion?
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:47 AM
Sep 2019

There is no law that says he can't be prosecuted -- that's only a Justice Dept policy.

We do have the State of New York actively trying to prosecute him. Trump controls the Federal justice department, so he can't be prosecuted through that.

Nadler is working through the courts to try to get evidence to use in impeachment hearings and that seems to be where most of the bottleneck is right now.


hunter

(38,310 posts)
42. People need to turn off the fucking television and put themselves out there.
Sun Sep 22, 2019, 06:32 PM
Sep 2019

Television spreads the hopelessness. That's what it's paid to do.



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