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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:46 PM Sep 2019

Nate Silver goes full batshit




I don't understand how impeachment serves as more effective deterrent against impeachable conduct when the opposition impeaches even when it would politically benefit the president to do so (& he'd remain in office). That actually incentivizes impeachable conduct, in fact.


Wow

I mean, wow
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Nate Silver goes full batshit (Original Post) Roland99 Sep 2019 OP
Fuck Nate Silver. dalton99a Sep 2019 #1
:) And all the others, who'd actually prefer you remain in Hortensis Sep 2019 #17
Got a point there empedocles Sep 2019 #2
Sounds to me like Palin logic. gordianot Sep 2019 #3
You may not agree with it Downtown Hound Sep 2019 #4
Impeaching trump will only help him... lame54 Sep 2019 #7
As far as I'm concerned it's not a forgone conclusion Downtown Hound Sep 2019 #8
Schrodinger's Impeachment lame54 Sep 2019 #9
It really is, isn't it? eom Control-Z Sep 2019 #12
Zing! Roland99 Sep 2019 #13
Go to bed Nate, you're drunk. smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #5
Don't look to stat geeks for insights on political leadership BeyondGeography Sep 2019 #6
He's hardly the first person to suggest this. unblock Sep 2019 #10
i dont get it... samnsara Sep 2019 #11
It seems that they didn't suspect a entire un-American and corrupt party. rockfordfile Sep 2019 #14
I've separated "impeachent" from "impeachment hearings" in my mind... albacore Sep 2019 #15
Trump is not finished unless we beat him in a election he will try to steal standingtall Sep 2019 #16

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. :) And all the others, who'd actually prefer you remain in
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:17 PM
Sep 2019

fighting shape? This is what he's talking about. We each should really ask ourselves what it is we're fighting for here.



gordianot

(15,237 posts)
3. Sounds to me like Palin logic.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:53 PM
Sep 2019

Drugs, alcohol, and lack of sleep will do that to you. He is probably exhausted like everyone else.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
8. As far as I'm concerned it's not a forgone conclusion
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:09 PM
Sep 2019

I actually don't think it will help him. But I understand why people think that. All I'm saying is it's not a batshit idea.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
5. Go to bed Nate, you're drunk.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 01:57 PM
Sep 2019

WTF kind of logic is that? So doing nothing is NOT going to incentivize impeachable conduct. Nate needs to just stick to the stats and lay off the "reasoning".

unblock

(52,196 posts)
10. He's hardly the first person to suggest this.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:18 PM
Sep 2019

I don't know if he's right or wrong, but it's hardly crazy to think impeachment followed by a corrupt senate clearing him of all charges and denouncing the whole exercise as baseless and partisan might actually help republicans politically.

Impeachment is *meant* to be a deterrent, but if the jury pool is in the defendant's pocket, it probably isn't very effective....

rockfordfile

(8,702 posts)
14. It seems that they didn't suspect a entire un-American and corrupt party.
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 02:55 PM
Sep 2019

That's what un-American trump is doing. Breaking all of the laws and daring Americans to do something. He knows the GOP Senate is corrupt and the DOJ is corrupt.

albacore

(2,398 posts)
15. I've separated "impeachent" from "impeachment hearings" in my mind...
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:04 PM
Sep 2019

If the hearings uncover the kind of shit we KNOW they will, whether the House passes bills of impeachment is immaterial. trump is finished. And so is the Repub Party. Raking thru all that shit, with a timeline that ends about a month before the election will doom those assholes at the polls.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
16. Trump is not finished unless we beat him in a election he will try to steal
Sat Sep 21, 2019, 03:10 PM
Sep 2019

Remember he doesn't need a majority. He will just either one prevent enough votes against him from being counted or two prevent of enough people from voting at all so he can steal the electoral college again. Going to take significant courage to prevent Trump and republicans from stealing the election and if Democrats are to timid to impeach Trump their not showing us that they are ready for what's coming.

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