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kozar

(2,088 posts)
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:42 AM Sep 2019

this may be too busy time to say this.

My mind is reeling right now trying to keep up,as we all are ,I'm sure.

I just want to type this down as it has been in corner of my brain since yesterday.

We all know Trump is a con man,grifter,idiot,,adjectives for infinity. But I just have a little creepy in my brain,that says, what if he got played? Please hear me out,,I'll be brief as I believe most who read are keeping up to date.

Certain Rethugs have a plan. We get Idiot in office and pull his chains, I am not doubting Putin's hand in this at any point. The R's all go "yes Sir" for a while, They let Idiot make his mistakes and the more he realizes he is in over his head, the more the comfort and "advise" him. Now, who is making decisions for our nation? The advisers. Perhaps they see his crap crumbling with poor speeches,poor health, etc,etc and they say, "it's time" . Toss idiot under bus ,,bring in next puppet,, we have 14 months to election. I've hated Idiot in Cheif since day 1. And also don't believe he is smart enough to pull all this complicated shit off.

Im not a tin foil hat person. I'm just wondering why things are happening so fast. As an old guy,when I feel rushed, I immediately tell myself,,"slow down"

Just food for thought,, hammer at me as you need to. we are all on same team here.
Koz

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this may be too busy time to say this. (Original Post) kozar Sep 2019 OP
I was wondering the same thing - is the GOP ready to cut the Con loose? CrispyQ Sep 2019 #1
Trump has served as a Useful Idiot for both Putin and the GOP Fiendish Thingy Sep 2019 #2
I agree kozar Sep 2019 #3
He's not smart enough to be this conspiratorial, but a few others are... TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #4
TB, can I make up an acronym? kozar Sep 2019 #6
Go ahead-- it's your call. And it's applicable here. TreasonousBastard Sep 2019 #8
You might be on to something. jeffreyi Sep 2019 #5
Pence for now, kozar Sep 2019 #7
There's an old saying: "It's easy to con a con man"... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #9
Yep, kozar Sep 2019 #10
There's another take on this, and it is scary... Wounded Bear Sep 2019 #11
ok , Touche' WB kozar Sep 2019 #12
They would have had to have been looking for a way out. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2019 #13

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
1. I was wondering the same thing - is the GOP ready to cut the Con loose?
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:50 AM
Sep 2019

They got their tax cuts. They can still stack the courts for another 14 months. He's already taken a sledge hammer to most of our institutions & divided the country. He's historically unpopular & is affecting down ballot races. They could cut him loose now & still have a year to repair their brand. ???

Fiendish Thingy

(15,551 posts)
2. Trump has served as a Useful Idiot for both Putin and the GOP
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:57 AM
Sep 2019

They will cut him loose when he is no longer useful or becomes a liability, which hopefully will be soon...

kozar

(2,088 posts)
3. I agree
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 10:59 AM
Sep 2019

My thought process is,, was this all planned? I keep coming back to how we all said Idiot "projected" himself while talking about his enemies. He also used the words ' DarkState" many times. so I just wonder, is it him? or MM and cronies?

Koz

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. He's not smart enough to be this conspiratorial, but a few others are...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:00 AM
Sep 2019

and this is the stuff from which great books are written.

Try this on-- Bush the Lesser was set up and pretty much controlled by these mysterious forces. He ruined the economy and got us into a stupid war, but he still accomplished whatever he was in there to do.

Another try with Trump and they got him in, but he is far less controllable and is causing more trouble than he is worth.

Trump himself, it seems generally agreed, ran for the microphone and ego boost but didn't really expect to win. Now that he has won, his ego tells him that whatever he does will be the right thing because he can do no wrong.

And here we are...

kozar

(2,088 posts)
6. TB, can I make up an acronym?
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:04 AM
Sep 2019

PTSO Parallel Thinking Same Outcome? only one letter off from PTSD,,which I take seriously with our military,, I was one,, just wanted to clear that up quick before I got bombed with blasts.

Koz

kozar

(2,088 posts)
7. Pence for now,
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:05 AM
Sep 2019

I'm hoping Nancy gets rid of them both,, but right now, it will all come down to Senate,,so Pence is next puppet, IMHO

Koz

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
9. There's an old saying: "It's easy to con a con man"...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:13 AM
Sep 2019

in fact, some versions say the easiest ones to con are the conmen themselves.

David Cay Johnson was on the other day and said that Trump's greatest strength was his ability to con other con men and take advantage of them. His whole life has been a continuous scam.

kozar

(2,088 posts)
10. Yep,
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:16 AM
Sep 2019

I have heard that too, caveat added. The other "con-men" Idiot conned were bankers. For his whole life. Politicians? A whole nother breed of nuclear accidents and Marvel Comic Book Series.

Koz

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
11. There's another take on this, and it is scary...
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:19 AM
Sep 2019

The PTB in Germany, when Hitler was first made Chancellor, were quoted as saying, "We are hiring him," thinking they could contain him.

Mein Kampf was reportedly Trump's favorite book.

kozar

(2,088 posts)
12. ok , Touche' WB
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:22 AM
Sep 2019

I'll add this to my brain,,nice point! I'll prolly come back with Idiot's fear of reading,,which would bring me back to "advisers"


Koz

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
13. They would have had to have been looking for a way out.
Wed Sep 25, 2019, 11:33 AM
Sep 2019

They needed a way to avoid implicating themselves in whatever new, singular event they were gonna let him go down for, because their prior association with him had left them all filthy dirty.

They (with Barr the fixer in place, post-Mueller report) set him up to treason on his own, and then just watch, or accelerate, the fall-out.

They take him out for this, whatever it is, and maybe they can avoid blowback.

Certainly not a crazy theory.

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