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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre we to believe that 45 wanted UKR to work with his two attorneys, when VP was already in the mix?
WHAT?
This makes no sense!! When has William Barr ever been involved with working with another foreign power on ANYTHING? And why not a whisper of, what we know, about Mike Pence's interactions with UKR????????????????????????
We know Ghouliani was in on this cabal.
We know Mike Pence was in on this cabal.
Link to tweet
But wait. Is it not more plausible that if we substitute the known Mike Pence interactions with UKR for Barr's uknown interactions that we're being led astray by news that it wasn't the Vice President who worked with Ghouliani, it was William Barr? If so, why haven't we heard a word from Ghouliani already about it? We haven't heard from anyone, let alone Ghouliani, because it wasn't Barr he worked with UKR, it was Pence.
No, we only hear revelations of Barr after Dems act. Now William Barr, Darth Vadar, is thrown into the mix as the guy to fall on tRump's sword to protect the VP's involvement, the true co-conspirator in this UKR extortion scandal.
That's my take on this transcript bullshit.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)Giuliani is Fat Nixon's personal attorney, and Barr might as well be. Both are acting on behalf of Trump's personal interests and not the United States', and they both belong in prison.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)whom he both values and (very rightly in my opinion) distrusts. So...question mark?
Anyway, from what we're hearing he apparently blabbed about what he was doing to a bunch of people as it happened, didn't just involve Giuliani and Barr, implicating them all in his crimes.
lindysalsagal
(20,440 posts)To Grandma's house "for a while" this morning.
Gangsters promise their thugs that they can protect them. Thugs are dumb, or greedy enough to believe them. They never expected they'd have to tell their wives that they'll have to sell the house to pay the lawyers....cancel the private schools, the country club membership.....
ffr
(22,644 posts)Maybe because tRump didn't consult with him prior to making this new story up, in an effort to cover-up Mike Pence's involvement.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Puppet Master,and the mystery person is=====Vladimir Putin.
Old Vlad has Donnie by the short ones and we are approaching the three year point of those high interest loans.
Zoonart
(11,748 posts)Pence started by saying he hadnt and then proceeded to give an answer that made it pretty clear that he had, even if he had not mentioned the former Vice President by name. It caught the ears of everyone who was already following this story. Its even more clear with what we learned last week.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/pence-gave-ukraine-the-message-too
ffr
(22,644 posts)FISHY to say the least.
struggle4progress
(118,034 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Barr could actually be in the mix because he has the power to open an investigation. Chump would have found him useful down the line. He would sacrifice Rudy (and even Pence) before he would sacrifice Barr.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Barr to get them all out of this mess, and he's the only person I can think of who could possibly do it. Barr IS his Roy Cohn--that is not an idle comparison.
ffr
(22,644 posts)better than if we find that Pence was the one asked to make calls....and DID MAKE CALLS to Zelensky.
Once Pence is drawn into this, the mess gets a whole let worse for republicans and I think you know why.
Link to tweet
09/19/19 - .@VP spoke by phone yesterday with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyyz. Trump plans to meet him next week