A NINETEEN MINUTE GAP!!!

[PCIntern]

So the call lasted thirty minutes and the transcript such as it is only lasts 11 minutes. So Trump outdid Nixon by one minute!

“The fun and learning never ends” - Barney the Dinosaur

[tblue37]

1. Trump always tries to one-up his predecessors. nt

[meadowlander]

18. The longest gap evah!

[forgotmylogin]

41. So 45 can claim the longest *something* in recorded history.

[Claritie Pixie]

2. Hilarious!! Did he think no one would notice? Probably.

[Hoyt]

3. What was released is plenty damning. n/t

[True Dough]

7. True, but we're missing the really good stuff

I sure wouldn't mind perusing the remainder!

[Liberal In Texas]

4. They need to release the audio tape.

Nothing else should be acceptable.

[DetlefK]

6. Well, according to Rudy Giuliani the WH does phone-records of official WH phone-calls.

He demanded that Biden produce his phone-records from when he was Vice-President. Bet he didn't think about Trump's phone-records.

[madaboutharry]

5. Dear PCIntern,

Promise never to leave DU. Your posts always make me smile.

[PCIntern]

59. Awwww...

You’re too kind!

[dweller]

8. and, Obama never had an Impeachment inquiry

so one up, WINNING !!

✌🏼

[beachbumbob]

9. No transcript was released. It was notes...

Highly doubt a recording exist, but you never know

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. Yet it doesn't read like "notes" at all. It read like a

re-creation. Notes would have been like: "And then the President thanked me.". Not "thank you Mr President"

[marked50]

10. I heard about this and told my wife and she

informed that someone on the TV gave a reasonable explanation for lots of that missing time. There was lots of translations going on. Seems logical if there was no direct communication between the two of them.

[PCIntern]

11. Nope. I ain't playing that game no more

It’s MISSING and needs to be accounted for immediately.

[H2O Man]

32. +1

[peggysue2]

40. Yes, no more excuses, wriggling and/or gaslighting

They need to cough up the entire thing, audio included. Otherwise, the so-called 'gap' becomes a full-blown Nixonesque replay.

And we all know how that turned out.

[marked50]

56. Agree that releasing the full audio tape is the only reliable

understanding and that one can not trust any document that is some sort of summary or only tidbits of information from this administration. This was not a gaslighting comment to distract but one to add to any investigations of the truth.

[lagomorph777]

67. Especially when the whole document is loaded with Trumpisms and Trumpish spelling errors.

[Generic Other]

54. Zelensky speaks English better than Trump

So I call BS like your wife!

[marked50]

58. So the simple response is to ask the question and get an answer.

[lagomorph777]

68. Yet in this document he speaks exactly the same way as Trump.

[NurseJackie]

12. And what they DID release is damaging by itself. I wonder what the rest said?

[sandensea]

13. 19 minutes?

Now that's a stretch.

[gratuitous]

25. See? That's how you know it's totally NOT like Watergate

An extra 30 seconds.

[sandensea]

35. Absolutely. Cheeto's nothing like Nixon.

He can't stand Cuban thugs; he prefers Eastern Europeans.



Cuban exile money launderer Bebe Rebozo, J. Edgar Hoover, and Nixon: a lot in common, so they say.

[klook]

26. LOL - I was going to post this image

One of the Republicans' Greatest Hits!

Rosemary Woods must've retired with disability benefits due to back trouble suffered on the job.

[sandensea]

28. The shamelessness alone should've qualified her for disability benefits

The modern GOPee was no doubt born with Nixon.

[H2O Man]

34. Thank you!

[sandensea]

36. You're welcome.

My, how history repeats itself.

[H2O Man]

37. Indeed!

I had commented on that (#30) before I saw your post. You nailed it!

[sandensea]

43. Yeah. Let's hope it ends the same way for Traitor Tot as it did for Tricky Dick.

Although we'll probably have to remove this one by way of the ballot box.

Probably better that way.

[H2O Man]

45. I think he will quit.

A lot of republicans despise him, but have been too cowardly to stand up to him. When the evidence is laid out, they will see Trump as a ball & chain they need to reject. Then he will resign to spend more time with Ivanka.

[sandensea]

52. Could be.

He doesn't deal exactly do well under pressure.

[SergeStorms]

46. During the Nixon impeachment days we called this...

"The Rosemary Woods Shuffle". At least that's what all we hippie, pinko, weirdos called it. I'm sure they didn't call it that in the White House.

On edit: Her right foot is supposdly located beneath the typing desk in that picture, pressing a foot pedal for her Dictaphone. For you youngster's, a Dictaphone was a primitive recording device. Barely a step up from stone tablets and chisels.

[sandensea]

57. Yeah. Republicans went from ampex tapes, to shedders, to pdf files.

They love destroying evidence - almost as much as the economy.

[Johnny2X2X]

15. translators?

Maybe double the time because translators were there speaking?

[tblue37]

19. Translators??? I've read that Zelensky is fluent in English & needs no translators. nt

[luvtheGWN]

38. Zelensky addressed the UN today in English

with a very mild Ukrainian accent. No need for translators, unless because he couldn't understand Trump's fractured attempt at English...

[BigmanPigman]

39. I just heard him speak. You are correct, fluent!

[Mr.Bill]

49. During the press conference,

there was one point where he asked a translator to clarify a question he was asked.

[Vinca]

16. I'm sure they just chatted about the grandkids for that other 19 minutes.

[evilhime]

17. question

Could those missing minutes be accounted for by waiting for translations on both sides? Just being devil's advocate here for a minute . .. Personally I think this is a sanitized version but preparing for spin.

[tblue37]

21. There could perhaps be other, more incriminating, phonecalls. nt

[Farmer-Rick]

61. Ehh, sounds like an excuse to me

The president of Ukraine speaks and understands English pretty well.

[FBaggins]

20. Where do you see 11 minutes?

The memo says 30 minutes.

[PCIntern]

22. If you read the transcript they say

It’s 11 minutes long

[FBaggins]

27. Where?

I see 9:03 - 9:33 a.m. EDT

[PCIntern]

29. That's the length of the call

The transcript when “read” is only 11 minutes of dialogue

[FBaggins]

31. Lol! Seriously?

You're talking about someone reading the memo out loud and deciding that's how long the call must have been?

That's nonsense.

[Whiskeytide]

50. Maybe. I had the same reaction at first. While there would ...

... certainly be a margin of error when reading the memo out loud, it would have a hard time amounting to 19 minutes longer than an 11 minute read out.

I assumed initially that it was likely due to translation delays during the call - but other posters are saying that Zalenski is fluent in English. Perhaps that's true. I don't know. He may also have preferred to do it in Ukrainian from his end for his own note takers and recording purposes - so that might explain it even if he is fluent in English.

While odd, this is likely not a big deal. But I guess it's good for a few laughs and eye rolls. At least until more comes out about it.

[FBaggins]

60. It's nonsense

The transcript is almost exactly 2,000 words long. Whoever performed this exercise was talking very fast (~180 words per minute). A normal conversational tone is ~125 WPM (which would make the transcript 16 minutes long), but it slows substantially for two participants over a 5,000 mile connection where neither is particularly fluent in the language. 30 minutes is plausible for this transcript.

but other posters are saying that Zalenski is fluent in English.

Also nonsense. He is "fluent" compared to most Americans' third language... but he was quite halting in his speech even when reading from a script yesterday.

This whole thing is based on a common misunderstanding re: how calls are memorialized. People are assuming that this is like Barr's summary of the Mueller report and just reflects the portion that the administration was willing for us to see. That's incorrect. There's no indication that this is anything but the original classified document.

[Farmer-Rick]

65. Oh come on, you have got to be talking about another president

Traitor Trump has never, and will never, provide the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

You can bet your life that this is Not the original full transcript. There is something missing and it is even worse than what this short little write up has in it.

[lagomorph777]

69. "no indication that this is anything but the original classified document."

You mean, other than the fact that the whole thing is loaded with Trumpisms and spelling errors?

[leftieNanner]

62. People who do TV or radio programs

Need to know exactly how long it takes to read something so that it fits the time slot There are programs that can make this calculation. That is how they figured out that there is a lot of stuff missing.

[FBaggins]

63. See #60 above. That's nonsense

This was just some guy thinking he could just check how long it took him to read it... and then jumping to conclusions.

There's no need for a "program". 2,000 words in 11 minutes is very fast. With one of the participants being a non-native speaker who clearly speaks English but is in no sense "fluent"... it's impossibly fast.

[Buckeyeblue]

23. It was 19 minutes of "no, you hang up first..."

Or Trump asked him about the pee pee tapes.

[blue-wave]

24. Ha!

It just keeps getting better, doesn't it? That's a Huuuugggge one minute. I can't wait for the whistleblower's testimony. There isn't enough popcorn in the world right now.

[H2O Man]

30. Recommended.

Wait! Where have we seen this before?

[gibraltar72]

33. Just for ironys sake can we call it an 18 minute gap?

[flibbitygiblets]

42. How much of that "missing time" is translations or other administrative coordination? /nt

[Liberty Belle]

44. Source please?

[MasonDreams]

47. If I was forced to talk with him I would get a translator and use Pig-Latin.

[LudwigPastorius]

48. It's not a transcript of the call.

I get the comparison, and Trump probably did alter what he released, but everyone is going on about the time discrepancy as proof of that. It's not.

The 'transcript' is a written recollection of what was discussed by third parties, not what was actually said.

[Farmer-Rick]

70. It's not a transcript. It's a memo

And it is Not even signed.

When I prepared or recorded federal records, I always had to sign them and identify my position and title. Generic group titles were never enough.

This thing is a fake.

[EveHammond13]

51. someone said it was because of the time the translators need

[spanone]

55. He won't be able to stop himself, he'll have to brag he's more of a criminal than nixon

[stuffmatters]

64. Re:what's there already appears heavily translated into Trumpspeak, Trumpbrag, Trumpnonsense

The conversation as presented seems like another Trump fantasy ("world leaders think Trump is great&quot and all in Trump's signature (limited) vocabulary. The whole transcript seems edited/created by Trump himself.

[unblock]

66. only 30 seconds -- the nixon gap was 18 and a half minutes.