EXPEDITED IMPEACHMENT!

[orangecrush]

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Just heard on the radio this is why Pelosi wants to focus solely on the Ukraine matrer, to make things move faster.

Whatever is in the whistleblower report is so bad, they want this mofo gone yesterday.


"House Democrats are coalescing around a strategy to narrow the focus of their impeachment inquiry to President Donald Trump's interactions with the president of Ukraine, an issue that has unified the party in outrage and motivated some Democrats to seek expedited action.

The strategy, described by Democratic lawmakers and aides familiar with the talks, would center on streamlining the consideration of articles of impeachment to focus exclusively on Trump's efforts to pressure Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden — a push they say included an implicit threat to withhold military aid to the Eastern European country."


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/09/25/trump-ukraine-memo-1510895

[Blue Owl]

1. All aboard the Ex-Pres Express...

[woodsprite]

2. Real impeachment isn't going anywhere unless the Senate gets on board. nt

[Haggis for Breakfast]

30. Don't you see ? It doesn't matter where the Senate is on this.

Full discovery is going to expose every nasty little detail of this. And more. Things we don't even know yet.

Think about that -- Headline news, every minute for 24/7 until the election. The Senate republicans will be forced to defend what trumpie did or oppose it. They are going to have to go on record.

Even Bitch McConnell is up for re-election in 2020. Why do you think 40% of republicans are either retiring or not standing for re-election ? They can see the handwriting (in black Sharpie) on the wall and it aint pretty.

When the full extent of the damage is assessed, trumpie is going down. As Rep (D-TX) Al Green said, "We have reached critical mass."

[onetexan]

38. +1 -K&R

[lindysalsagal]

47. Hearings, hearings, hearings. They'll do the damage for 2020.

[woodsprite]

53. I'm all for that! Shine a light on those roaches! nt

[Joe941]

50. Why keep repeating this like a broke record?

[RockRaven]

3. Given that Trumpland's go-to move is "stall/delay" this may be wise.

His people are definitely going to do everything possible to run out the clock (14 months).

And there might be an added bonus to moving quickly, and focusing on a set of acts which can be directly linked to national security interests -- it will make all the Congressional Repukes have to publicly choose between fealty to Dump45 and American strength/safety. Either way there is a clear avenue of attack for their opponents in the next election.

[dweller]

4. death by 1,000 cuts

is my preferred method

let him bleed out daily rage tweeting

✌🏼

[orangecrush]

6. It may be urgent

To keep him from literally throwing the election and making himself "president for life".

Not kidding, that is the sort of threat this kind of urgency points to.

[dweller]

12. there is NO way that's possible ...

this is America planting her feet firmly, legally and CONSTITUTIONALLY ...

there will be NO overthrow of our Government

that Orange stain will be removed, bank on it

✌🏼

[orangecrush]

14. They are moving fast

For a reason.

[dweller]

19. i'm well aware of that, i posted my suspicions recently

that it was a bombshell about to be revealed...

but Ms Pelosi is a Master tactician, and has firm hands on the reins...

i see posts about by christmas, thanksgiving,
even all Hallow's eve, by today ... hell yesterday FFS...
i'd love to see it culminate in the Spring myself ... a period of rejuvenation

but we can only wait and see ...

✌🏼

[onetexan]

39. Agree, strike while its hot to prevent further destruction

And while the public fervor is on board.

[dawg day]

51. He was just "joking" about a third term the other day

He's going to spend the rest of his sorry life fulminating about all the terms "stolen" from him, and his cultists will believe it, that for some insane reason, this louse deserves more chance to ruin our nation.

[bluestarone]

5. When the Senate votes no then

We start the second, one then the third one, then the fourth one, Hell we could do this indefinitely!

[orangecrush]

7. I believe

When the truth comes out, the Senate will vote to impeach.

Pelosi probably does too or there would be no hurry.

[bluestarone]

8. Hope so!

I do see a change in the wind. (senate wind that is)

[orangecrush]

9. ...

[Left-face]

54. There will be several articles of impeachment

Call it a nice big I'm-peach-ment pie with enough pie to go around for every senator.

[ritapria]

10. There were 2 efforts to impeach Andrew Johnson

The first one failed......The 2nd one succeeded ... Of course he was acquitted in the Senate by 1 vote ...The deciding Senator was bribed by a Johnson supporter ….He wasn't a " Profile in Courage"

[BigmanPigman]

16. Good info, I didn't know it lost by one bribed vote.

[struggle4progress]

11. "If we don't get him out quickly, an angry wave with torches and pitchforks and shotguns

might wash over our fair capitol city"

[Cal Carpenter]

13. ...

[KPN]

34. We should hope anyway.

[ritapria]

15. To obtain a conviction in the Senate ...

We're going to need at least 2 more credible whistleblowers to come forward ...The first one may embolden others to come forward …..

[BigmanPigman]

17. Good point.

[orangecrush]

18. Welcome to D.U.

The dam is breaking.

Enjoy the celebration

[Laura PourMeADrink]

22. There are two + more

[Lock him up.]

41. Apparently, there is 1 more who went directly to the House

Ways and Means Committee (re: IRS handling of the mob boss's tax returns).

[DallasNE]

20. Focused, Yes

But to only go after a single article does not bring justice to other serious charges and sends the message that some law breaking is fine. I would instead narrow it to the easy to prove stuff. Ukraine is one. Hush money is another. Obstruction of Justice where the low hanging fruit is located. That might allow up to 5 articles.

[Lock him up.]

42. His firing of Comey live on TV...

Another tape. Explicit.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Agree, I think. But wrap ALL the rest up in a Censure bow. Boom

Then 100% focus on protecting the 2020 election!

[AdamGG]

23. I hope these investigations smolder in the House for as long as possible

Definitely don't want to expedite handing it to Mitch

[rainin]

24. As bad as this is, I can't see the general public getting animated about this.

I predict trump will say this is business as usual and ordinary Americans will wonder what this has to do with them. I hope I'm wrong.

[orangecrush]

26. Just saw a new poll

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/most-americans-support-impeachment-trump-ukraine-biden-controversy-1461283%3famp=1

[lindysalsagal]

48. Only 26% oppose impeachment. That's his real approval number. Not 40 or 42.

Since the revolution, the monarchists were always around 25%. That's the real KGOP number. That's why they can't win without cheating.

[MFGsunny]

52. Bingo! n/t

[Tiggeroshii]

25. Get the votes, impeach him, send to senate

And whatever happens after that would be used against them in the campaign.

[orangecrush]

27. Buy popcorn

And buckle up.

[Tiggeroshii]

28. Should be a short movie

But very entertaining.

[Hoyt]

29. Melania needs to start packing up and stealing what she can get.

[Dem2theMax]

36. You made me laugh so hard that my throat hurts!

[napi21]

31. Nancy's right. She wisely wants the American people behind them for this vote.

To do that you have to keep the reasons easily understood, not require a lot of explanation, and grievous enough that most people will understand why he has to go. I was hoping for this, even though some of the Dem committee chairs was to add a lot of their findings to the charges. The Mueller findings were obvious to all of us who monitor this stuff every day, but the majority of Americans don't, and all that inside baseball needed too much explanation for a majority to get it!

Thanks Nancy!

[onetexan]

40. +1 -K&R

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

32. I hope it lasts long enough to make him miserable

and drive him right over the edge. I want to see that MF decompensate on live TV.

[Lock him up.]

43. He's too dangerous for that.

He could become totally irrational (if that was even possible but his vindictiveness is unpredictable).

[napi21]

57. This investigation should last long enough to inform the general public of DT's illegal acts

and then should go directly to articles or impeachment and a vote on such.

This investigation by the House has gone on a very long time already, and the Public is getting tired. The acts described in the Mueller Report were serious and some are impeachable offences, BUT they aren't extremely clear to the Public. THESE particular acts, described in the WB Complaint ARE easily understood and should not take an extremely long time to complete investigating. I just don't want this to get into the weeds so much that the public would lose interest!

[Fiendish Thingy]

33. They shouldn't rush things too fast, more critical evidence coming in November.

A court decision is due in November that will force Deutches bank and Trump's accountants to release their records to congress, records that will almost certainly contain incriminating evidence about fraud and money laundering for Russia.

That evidence should be included in impeachment proceedings along with Ukraine evidence, and would give the best shot at getting Republican support for removal, as the GOP would need time to find a new nominee for 2020, since Trump's chances would be next to nil before the primaries even start.

[CarlitosMMT]

35. Question

I don’t think there would be anything prohibiting the House from passing impeachment resolution after impeachment resolution. Am I wrong?

The House can streamline one article and impeach POTUS, then declare Trump impeached setting in motion his Senate trial, but then continuing to vote on additional articles of impeachment.

IMO This president needs to be held to account for all “high crimes and misdemeanors.”

I think a strategy of Ukraine scandal first and only is surrender monkey logic. If you come at the King, you best not miss. The Democrats should aim for overkill.

[AlexSFCA]

44. no rush, we don't want pence

[stopdiggin]

45. not sure if that's a great idea

and even if it were .. not sure how much of a "rush" you can put on these things. Assuming that subpoenas still must be issued .. make their way through the usual process. Some courts might cooperate by expediting (somewhat), but nothing says they have to. And these are pretty big issues. And then evidence uncovered often leads to other evidence. Not sure short cutting is either the way to go .. or ultimately possible. I guess Nancy would know far better than I. But .. I have to confess to some doubts.

[Buckeyeblue]

46. It will be interesting to see how bad he gets if/when they impeach

He only knows how to double down. He practically paraded Zelensky out to say there was nothing wrong with the call. I felt bad for Zelensky. I wonder what was on the table for him to do that? More money? A threat from Uncle Vlad?

I think Republicans are putting up resistance because they have to. If Trump thinks he is losing support he'll sink the whole damn ship.

[mucifer]

49. focusing on Ukraine will get barr out. I like it!

[AncientGeezer]

59. How's that? Dumpster would have to fire him. I don't see that happening.

I'm not sure he can be impeached (can't find a case/law that says yes) but for the sake of...let's say he can.
This Senate isn't going to convict Barr. They confirmed him.

[beachbumbob]

55. no reason to expediate as the chances of GOP in the senate to convict is extremely remote

what is needed is to lay out the criminal behavior of trump and his family and close associates. Force GOP into defending crime going into Nov 2020 election with a wounded president at the top of the ticket

Expedite gives GOP time to recover

[orangecrush]

56. Impeachment express

Before he has the time to declare himself dictator.

[eppur_se_muova]

58. "Alexa, begin impeachment proceedings. NOW." nt