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csziggy

(34,131 posts)
4. No vote required - it is the order of succession
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:45 PM
Sep 2019
The line of succession follows the order of vice president, speaker of the House of Representatives, president pro tempore of the Senate, and then the eligible heads of federal executive departments who form the president's Cabinet. The Presidential Succession Act refers specifically to officers beyond the vice president acting as president rather than becoming president when filling a vacancy. The Cabinet currently has 15 members, of which the Secretary of State is first in line; the other Cabinet secretaries follow in the order of when their departments (or the department of which their department is the successor) were created. Those heads of department who are constitutionally ineligible to be elected to the presidency are disqualified from assuming the powers and duties of the president through succession, and skipped to the next in line. Since 1789, the vice president has succeeded to the presidency intra-term on nine occasions, eight times due to the incumbent's death, and once due to resignation. No one lower in the line of succession has been called upon to act as president.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_line_of_succession


Why do you think the Republicans are trying to smear Nancy Pelosi about every little thing? They want to de-legitimize her before their "chosen one" and his subjugant Pence get thrown out of office. Then Moscow Mitch could be president - the only way he'd ever get that office.

Left-face

(59 posts)
5. There's also an exciting alternative..
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:46 PM
Sep 2019

They could both have massive heart attacks at the same time or even better, both could swallow arcenic which would cause extremely painful cardiac arrest..Same thing really..
Now I know it's unlikely at best, but an old man can still dream.. Heck, one would think it would be a real patriots patriotic duty to their nation and way of life to administer the poison or find another lethal solution, but I'm too old to run around stalking politicians.

RockRaven

(14,886 posts)
2. The GOP Senate will never vote to remove both Trump and Pence at the same time...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:43 PM
Sep 2019

At best they will remove one of them, then refuse to do so on the second one unless a new VP is confirmed first.

Kablooie

(18,605 posts)
7. Maybe if Trump is impeached, Pence becomes president and picks Trump to be vice president.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:53 PM
Sep 2019

To keep the base happy.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
15. Can't. Once impeached he would be ineligible for any public office...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:46 PM
Sep 2019

at least in the Federal gov't.

Kablooie

(18,605 posts)
6. It is a little odd that the person who kicks off an impeachment is third in line for the presidency.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 06:51 PM
Sep 2019

The system is designed that way but it seems odd to allow the instigator of an impeachment to personally benefit from it if only one more person is knocked out of the way.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
12. Instigator? Interesting word given its usually negative insinuation.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:17 PM
Sep 2019

Here's something that's really "odd": The Vice President's role in both impeachment and 25th amendment removals. Especially powerful in the latter, but the VP would break a tie vote in a senate trial also.

in·sti·gate
/ˈinstəˌɡāt/
* bring about or initiate (an action or event).
"they instigated a reign of terror"
* incite someone to do something, especially something bad.
"instigating men to refuse allegiance to the civil powers"

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
16. I'm sure that is part of the reason Madame Speaker danced around the issue so long...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:47 PM
Sep 2019

if she's too enthusiastic, it looks like a coup and energizes the rubes.

hunter

(38,301 posts)
11. I think Trump will destroy Pence first in a paranoid fit of rage.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:09 PM
Sep 2019

An innocuous Vice President will be appointed (innocuous compared to Trump...) who will pardon Trump when he resigns.

It will be an echo of Ford and Nixon.

There's some really bad shit in Pence's closet, otherwise he wouldn't be Vice President.

If Trump has the slightest suspicion that Pence is plotting against him, true or not, Pence will be gone.

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