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extvbroadcaster

(343 posts)
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:30 PM Sep 2019

Does Trump want to be impeached?

Trump is a maze of psychological problems. You have to admit, in 2016 he tried everything he could to lose. That was the whole plan. He did not want to win, he just wanted to come in second and up his brand. The whole thing fell apart when he won. Now Trump went through some phases. First, shock he won. Next, he got used to the job and got rid of people that tried to contain him. Then he ran the Presidency like his business. But he discovered he could not do that, and more and more he is taking heat. The pressure must be getting to him. So maybe on a subconscious level he wants to be impeached. If he was removed from office, the pressure is gone. He could claim it was all a witch hunt, go back to mar-a-lago, play the victim and not have to do any of the work of President. Of course Pence would pardon him as he went out the door. Everybody wins. You never know with Trump. Look at today when he made remarks about the whistle blower to a crowd of over 50 people. He had to know somebody was recording. Like a criminal that wants to get caught and sent back to prison. Only in Trumps case, he wants to be sent back to the golf course.

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Does Trump want to be impeached? (Original Post) extvbroadcaster Sep 2019 OP
You make some good points, but... trof Sep 2019 #1
Most likely Blanks92 Sep 2019 #2
I have no doubt he really regrets being President and he looking for an exit ... marble falls Sep 2019 #19
You write like an ex-TV broadcaster I knew... Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #3
Dr. Alan Chartock still runs WAMC, Northeast Public Radio Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #17
God bless him! Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #18
He occasionally appeared with Ed Dague, news anchor for WNYT, Albany Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #21
That's where I was going... Dennis Donovan Sep 2019 #22
I once pulled into a supermarket parking lot and sat there for half an hour Rhiannon12866 Sep 2019 #23
Oh good lord.....no DrToast Sep 2019 #4
What IT wants is to dominate the news cycle. saidsimplesimon Sep 2019 #5
He doesn't want to risk jail, so no... cynatnite Sep 2019 #6
And then the New York AG steps in with an indictment Pence can't pardon him out of. nt tblue37 Sep 2019 #8
+1 uponit7771 Sep 2019 #25
Not so sure about this Ahpook Sep 2019 #7
He desperately tried to make a deal with Nancy to get her to halt the impeachment inquiry, so tblue37 Sep 2019 #9
Logic dictates that Blanks92 Sep 2019 #12
I don't see it that way. pwb Sep 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author iamateacher Sep 2019 #10
Rachel raised the bellicose Agnew case, where Agnew wrote a letter asking to empedocles Sep 2019 #11
From observation, two things he seems to love are attention and playing victim loyalsister Sep 2019 #13
The beauty of all this is that he went into this to draw attention to and increase the value smirkymonkey Sep 2019 #14
Who knows? The Genealogist Sep 2019 #15
He does customerserviceguy Sep 2019 #16
I do not believe at all that he did not want to win jcgoldie Sep 2019 #20
"It's a fundraising opportunity!" struggle4progress Sep 2019 #24
I don't think he wanted to lose, precisely. But I don't think he wanted to win either. NCLefty Sep 2019 #26
i think hes finding hes supposd to WORK in this job and hes not happy.. samnsara Sep 2019 #27
You list me with tRump did not want to win in 2016. He KPN Sep 2019 #28
No DeminPennswoods Sep 2019 #29
If he does MFM008 Sep 2019 #31
I really don't think so. lark Sep 2019 #32
No, he knows he has the Senate so he doesnt care what the House does.nm Oregon1947 Sep 2019 #33

trof

(54,256 posts)
1. You make some good points, but...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:33 PM
Sep 2019

Please break it up into 2 or 3 paragraphs.
Blocks of type like your post are difficult to read.
Thanks.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
19. I have no doubt he really regrets being President and he looking for an exit ...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:25 PM
Sep 2019

that helps his bottom line. Could he make money talking at dinners and conventions to his basket of deplorables and John Bircher widows speaking on how unfairly lost his Presidency and be glad he was no longer in office. Maybe some Fox "news" invites.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
17. Dr. Alan Chartock still runs WAMC, Northeast Public Radio
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:01 PM
Sep 2019

And he's also active on Twitter, as is his son.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
21. He occasionally appeared with Ed Dague, news anchor for WNYT, Albany
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:29 PM
Sep 2019

They informed and debated their progressive message.

Rhiannon12866

(205,074 posts)
23. I once pulled into a supermarket parking lot and sat there for half an hour
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 10:08 PM
Sep 2019

Since Alan Chartock was interviewing Greg Palast on the radio and I wanted to hear the whole thing!

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
5. What IT wants is to dominate the news cycle.
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:35 PM
Sep 2019

To play the role of a "star" media personality, raking in the bucks for his performance, while fleecing "the rubes".

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
6. He doesn't want to risk jail, so no...
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:36 PM
Sep 2019

Staying in the WH keeps that from happening.

Although, if he thinks he's going to lose and if he wants to be let off the hook, then resigning would be the way to go. Then Pence steps in and pardons him.

tblue37

(65,269 posts)
9. He desperately tried to make a deal with Nancy to get her to halt the impeachment inquiry, so
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:41 PM
Sep 2019

I am pretty sure he doesn't want to be impeached.

 

Blanks92

(5 posts)
12. Logic dictates that
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:02 PM
Sep 2019

Impeachment proceedings will solidify his base and those who may view him as a victim of relentless media abuse

Response to extvbroadcaster (Original post)

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
11. Rachel raised the bellicose Agnew case, where Agnew wrote a letter asking to
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 07:57 PM
Sep 2019

be impeached - figuring he could rely on Republican Senate votes, but not a criminal grand jury.

It seems to be to ltrump's advantage to have impeachment soon, and have it fail, before he slips any more in the polls. Ride through it like he rode through pussy grabbing, Manafort, gates, Mueller, etc.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
13. From observation, two things he seems to love are attention and playing victim
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:05 PM
Sep 2019

Impeachment would give him a stage for both. It seems he does not see wrong doing as a possibility when his actions are designed to fulfill his needs, desires, or whims. So, it wouldn't surprise me if he were to embrace martyrdom, and ride it out.

On the other hand, even if he grasps the reality of the seriousness of impeachment, his security in the legitimacy of his behavior could lead him to dig in and fight it.

There are probably a few other possibilities I can't imagine, as well.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
14. The beauty of all this is that he went into this to draw attention to and increase the value
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:12 PM
Sep 2019

of his brand. However, he has pretty much trashed his brand and I don't think his children are going to be able to rehabilitate it.

I think he would love to go back to his old life if he could figure out a way not to look like a loser. He doesn't like being president, but he doesn't want to give up the power or the attention either. He's also afraid of being prosecuted for the many crimes he has committed. I think he'd settle for a "deal" to walk away from it all.

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
15. Who knows?
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:17 PM
Sep 2019

He's like a big balloon that someone has untied and let go, so that it is sailing all over the room as it looses its air. Does he want it? On the plus size for him, it means people paying attention to him and "there's no such thing as bad publicity." On the other, it may mean he loses office and will have to pay for his crimes. Frankly, I think his brain is oatmeal, rendering him incapable of knowing what he wants--save maybe a Big Mac/Whopper/KFC chicken dinner/grease trap to lick clean.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
16. He does
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 08:47 PM
Sep 2019

thrive on conflict. My first ex-wife was somewhat like that, learned it from her mother.

For Trump, to struggle is to live. He may well have invited this on himself to have a battle to fight. That's why I think he will never resign.

jcgoldie

(11,627 posts)
20. I do not believe at all that he did not want to win
Thu Sep 26, 2019, 09:28 PM
Sep 2019

And based on the way he is reacting I do not believe at all that he wants to be impeached.

NCLefty

(3,678 posts)
26. I don't think he wanted to lose, precisely. But I don't think he wanted to win either.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 03:54 AM
Sep 2019

He's a lazy fucker. He never wanted to have to attend all of these Official Events, learning about World Problems and Caring About Other People while dragging his gold-digging wife after him. That's why she cried the night he was elected. He wanted the fame, sure, but not the responsibility.

But his ego and hubris got the better of him and, once elected, he was trapped in the brightest spotlight in the world.

What a fucking moron! :p

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
27. i think hes finding hes supposd to WORK in this job and hes not happy..
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:33 AM
Sep 2019

..he likes the bling and the attn and lord knows the POWER but if he has to actually work for it? hes be happier on the golf course..maybe he will use this as an excuse to walk off the job.

KPN

(15,641 posts)
28. You list me with tRump did not want to win in 2016. He
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 06:57 AM
Sep 2019

was indeed shocked when he, in fact, did win. But he also always wanted to win. That is the core of tRump — and the problem of his presidency. He always wants to win and always has. And he will do whatever it takes to do so.

lark

(23,083 posts)
32. I really don't think so.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 09:02 AM
Sep 2019

Yes, he is a very ignorant and vainglorious ass who thinks he always gets his way, but he KNOWS he will go to jail if he's not president, he has broken so many laws he would definitely go down. That's the only reason he's fighting like a hellcat to again steal the election - his very freedom is at stake. He could have everything taken from him and rot in jail and he will do anything, a n y t h i n g, to stop that - even setting his minions to hurt the WB and anyone who talked to her/him.

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