White House Counsel Members Who Hid Trump's Call Transcripts In Stand-Alone NSC Server

[ancianita]

Annie Donaldson

Gregory Katsas

Makan Delrahim

Uttam Dhillon

Stefan Passantino

John A. Eisenberg

Patrick F. Philbin

Kate Comerford Todd

Michael Purpura

Pat Cipollone

I only know of one, John Eisenberg, from Kirkland & Ellis out of Chicago.

Adam Schiff is coming for them and their password-coded National Security Council server. I find it hard to believe that 16 intel agencies couldn't crack that server.

Regardless, familiarizing oneself with their names might come in handy as Schiff's House Intel Committee conducts further investigation.

[Leghorn21]

1. So this is another reason Rep Schiff and his team are working through recess, eh?

Thanks for good info, ancianita!

[LuvLoogie]

2. Schiff already has it. (probably)

Remains to be seen if they hand it over or obstruct.

[ancianita]

6. Right? Me, neither. But they're a Big Law high powered group. They should have known better.

According to the former NSA's IG, Joe Brenner, on Lawrence O'Donnell, these people have criminal exposure now.

[ArcticFox]

27. Sometimes the path to big law involves

Seeing your scruples aside. That's part of what big money clients pay for.

[ancianita]

34. I would think that there are good and bad lawyers, but not criminal lawyers.

As they say, in this case, when you work for Trump, you engage in criminal activity.

Cohen and the rest of the jailed are proof of that.

That the White House counsel team thought they could be, like their boss, above the law, is the ultimate corruption.

Theirs is worse than business corruption; this is the corruption of those whose morality should be guided by belief that they work for a nation of laws and not of men.

[Lock him up.]

44. Michael Cohen - Convicted criminal lawyer.

They believed Crooked Donald is the second coming... (and not the second Nixon).

[ancianita]

46. Heh heh. Yep. The US needs to listen to New Yorkers when they tell us who's solid and who's not.

[SergeStorms]

33. The first rule of working in the Trump mal-administration:

You bow at the feet of Donald Trump and serve him only! Your morals, scruples etc. are left at home. Those morals, scruples etc. have no place in the Trump White House.

Everything Donald Trump touches DIES! Why would anyone want to be associated with Trump's mal-administration? I'll never be able to understand any answer to that one question.

[ancianita]

35. "Everything Donald Trump touches DIES!" Including democracy, if this wannabe dictator had his way.

[Kablooie]

37. So many people are willing to fall on their sword for Trump.

Many more will go to prison and become a convicted felon the rest of their lives in order to serve this ass.
And they seem to do it willingly!
It's weird.

[ancianita]

39. Right? All the unforced errors of MF45's life, yet his money won't move him on from this last one.

It's the professional class serving the moneyed class. They're an old sub-class, socioeconomically, and have never been considered part of the wealthy class.

The billionaires make up the .01% and the professional class make up the rest of the 1%.

The weirdness of their service is that they don't know fake money from real money, so they go down with fake money like Trump's.

New York, full of the class consciousness of real wealth, always knew that Trump wasn't worthy. That's why Putin groomed him as his tool.

[onetexan]

51. Good! With a crim conviction they should be disbarred.

Thats what u get for enabling a crook. Add Ghooliani to that too .

[klook]

67. Let's hope we hear more about them as they flip on their superiors. (nt)

[GeoWilliam750]

68. The reference to Kirkland & Ellis is interesting

Kirkland & Ellis alums include:

Brett Kavanaugh
Robert Bork
Ken Starr
William Barr
Pat Cipollone
Alexander Acosta
John R Bolton

Then again, it is the largest US law firm, very active in corporate law, although they strangely found time to defend Jeffrey Epstein.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirkland_%26_Ellis

[MontanaMama]

76. Jesus.

That’s one terrifying list.

[Blue_true]

4. My guess is the security agencies have cracked the encryption for the server.

I just don't see a small group of people having the expertise to hold off the capabilities of US Intelligence. What may be happening is the intelligence agencies may be cowered in confronting Trump's White House. An impeachment investigation will force them to divulge what they know, because an executive branch that may be criminal lose the capacity to hide information, or prevent agencies from turning it over to Congress.

It is informative that in just a few hours the House found out about the standalone server.

[ancianita]

8. When the WH team treats foreign calls by the prez as highest level intel, they better lawyer up.

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Their actions show they must have known he was breaking the law.

[Control-Z]

11. I haven't been able to follow as closely as I would have liked today.

Do we know how the House found out about the standalone server?

[Blue_true]

15. It may have been during the testimony of the DNI earlier today. nt

[ancianita]

21. It's in an appendix of the whistleblower's published claim. Is that around here somewhere?

If not, I'll post it.

[Control-Z]

25. Please!

I would really appreciate it if you would post it.

Thank you, ancianita!

[ancianita]

41. Not a problem. Thanks for your interest.

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1Cs3w1JpRfa1CCeeEtAEnZNIiiFXB1zF1BuYd_V9DF0dJSC0TFCtr6OSA

[True Blue American]

59. Thanks for that.

Had a busy day so did not get a chance to read it. Now I can read it several times to be sure.

[DURHAM D]

5. Isn't Bill Barr's son-in-law in the WH counsel's office?

Tyler McGaughey

[Leghorn21]

12. Yes, and daughter Mary's in finCEN

February, this year:

...CNN reports that (Tyler) McGaughey, the husband of Barr’s youngest daughter, has been hired as an attorney in the White House counsel’s office, where he’ll “advise the president, the executive office, and White House staff on legal issues concerning the president and the presidency.”...

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/william-barr-son-in-law-white-house

[ancianita]

23. That Financial Crimes Enforcement Network works out of the Treasury. Heavy duty.

Her work is a sidebar, but could be relevant if/when Schiff and other committees finally get some IRS documentation on MF45's finances.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_Crimes_Enforcement_Network

[ancianita]

13. Yes. He got the job in February. The nepotism is obvious, right?

[Control-Z]

22. Damn near as bad as Hollywood.

"The nepotism is obvious, right?"

[C_U_L8R]

9. They very well may be looking at jailtime.

Or at least disbarment

[ancianita]

16. That's exactly what Joe Brenner said to O'Donnell.

[ritapria]

10. Where did you get this important information ?

[ancianita]

17. The Commons of the Internet, Wikipedia. McGaughey's name wasn't included in the list.

[Leghorn21]

14. Hey, if Donaldson had a hand in this, then mayhaps lil Donnie McGahn can tell us a little something

about it? She was his uhhh clerk or cohort or colleague or like that

Come to think of it, due to recent events, maybe he’s having some second thoughts about coming in and testifying for the good and the benefit of the American People!!? WHAT SAY YOU DONNIE MCGHAN

[ancianita]

18. Don McGahn's group was larger, and many left when he did. This group is a shrunk version that's left

[Blue_true]

19. That asshole should be thrown in prison. Some of his actions may now be criminal.

Who gives a crap if he come forward now, he ignored a House summons to testify. Jail his ass.

[ancianita]

20. The coverup by these lawyers is as bad as the crime. Draining the swamp now reaches a whole nuther

level.

[Dan]

24. reference..." I find it hard to believe that 16 intel agencies couldn't crack that server. "

Trust me - they probably can, just probably maybe not in our lifetime.

[ancianita]

29. ... I'm laughing, but do you seriously think this?

[Dan]

47. White House Security Systems

Were probably setup by US Security Agencies.

Not a backdrop hack to get in.

Not only Network security to beat - assume that you are allowed in tho’.

Now physical security on Servers - assume that you are allow in tho’.

Then, if smart, encryption on data - now that is where you have fun...good luck.

In theory - encryption key required.

[ancianita]

49. Thanks. But I have more questions.

[SunSeeker]

26. K & R for exposure.

[volstork]

28. It's probably

wiped by now.

[ancianita]

30. By whom. I'm pretty sure WH counsel couldn't do it.

[rickyhall]

31. So when Dump attacked Senator Clinton over her emails he was projecting?

What a whiny little bitch...

[ancianita]

32. Had to be, whether he knew about Bush's 22 million destroyed emails or not, right?

[lastlib]

36. (Isn't Barr from Kirkland Ellis also?)

I've heard that firm name before....

[ancianita]

38. Barr? No. You might be reminded because of Brett Kavanaugh, Robert Bork, Ken Starr and Alex Acosta.

Kirkland & Ellis seem to be a magnet for the conservative legal teams, or the .01%'s legal teams.

I've never understood how they've been seen in Chicago, though I've lived here since 1973, but the firm has endowed professorships in its name at four law schools: Harvard Law School, Northwestern University School of Law, University of Michigan Law School, and University of Chicago Law School.

[wishstar]

50. Yes, Bill Barr was a Kirkland Ellis attorney as was widely publicized

https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2019/02/14/kirkland-ellis-bill-barr-confirmed-as-attorney-general/?slreturn=20190827023208

[ancianita]

62. Thanks. I only skimmed him bio and missed it.

[CabalPowered]

40. Dont forget Jared

I'd be willing to bet that he had access. And motive.

[ancianita]

42. Right! Who could forget Jared!

I wonder if he'll get the same treatment Mueller gave the Trump kids.

Hope not. They have to learn that with money and privilege comes responsibility to the country.

The thing is, the lawyers will be the ones held responsible for all illegal activity in the WH, probably not Jared.

The "we" who are told that "ignorance of the law is no excuse" are not the Trump younguns, apparently.

[NCLefty]

43. I'd be a little surprised if CIA/FBI doesn't already have this. I think they've been watching Trump

because he's so damn corrupt and he kept trashing THEIR reputations.

But whether they give it to Congress...

[ancianita]

45. If what they have is known by Schiff's committee and they're asked, they're legally bound to appear.

The timeline of the Trump impeachment vote might alter the timeline of how all his henchmen are dealt with.

We'll see, I suppose.

[Arazi]

71. "Legally bound"

[JI7]

48. Do they have any connection to businesses or organizations connected To Russia/Putin ?

[ancianita]

55. Don't know. I listed names, hoping others might add what they know. I'm not inclined to look up

each individually since they're not public figures.

Now that you ask, it's worth a look.

[ancianita]

66. That takes more digging and cyber savvy than anyone here is likely to be able to do. News orgs

will likely dig up any info on foreign connections, if evidence of them exists.

In the meantime, we see a domestic investigation expand to find illegal coverup evidence -- from witness interviews, depositions, digital and paper trails, and patterns of wrongdoing as the context -- for charges.

[NCLefty]

52. What's the source of this list?

[ancianita]

54. Reply #10

[NCLefty]

60. Thanks. Here it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Counsel

[Captain Zero]

53. what if all those lawyers, or just a few had input-only access

what if this nsc stand-alone was a counter intel operation? or just used that way?
what if the whistle blower and his/her pals told them to not worry about troublesome stuff, just store it here?

Give them each a unique access id and authority to store but not to retrieve.
The logins could show who stored what, and the login could show who tried to access to remove data and was denied.

Maybe I'm just hoping for this to be an airtight take down of criminal activity.
Couldn't happen to a better bunch. The Best !!


Also this Chicago law firm sounds like it makes these people invincible, but they may all be a bunch of low lifes like Kavanaugh was. He worked at the white house one time too.

[ancianita]

57. Good questions. But what is counter intel for? Was the whistleblower in the room when those

decisions were made?

The way entry is arranged might not depend on logins, but yeah, I get it.

Schiff will know the relevant intel needed, and the whole set of issues connected to a secret server and a president. Airtight is long to be wished for.

I hear you about Kirkland & Ellis.

[vsrazdem]

56. I believe Annie Donaldson left the white house in December 2018, so she probably was not

aware.

[ancianita]

58. Probably not. She left two months after McGahn.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

61. Question: Isn't there at least one other layer of people involved in this, meaning...

high-level IT people?

These are "Counsel Members" which means attorneys, right? They would just be passing along orders to a highly skilled group of data heads that work in IT.

One would think they would have to be government employees with high-level security clearances.

Best there's a bunch of folks shaking in their boots over this one.....

[ancianita]

63. You're right, of course, and they carry out the decisions.They're just probably not in a staff-line

position to be held as accountable as the legal team.

We'll see.

[Iterate]

64. And did trump know about it??

Is this the source of his constant misunderstanding about what a server is and what it does?


Such as:

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump

....Where is the DNC Server, and why didn’t the FBI take possession of it? Deep State?
95.5K
11:57 AM - Jul 14, 2018
Twitter Ads info and privacy


He always sounds like he's talking about a stand-alone computer locked in a secret closet.

[ancianita]

65. I really don't care because I know he denies everything that can get him in legal jeopardy.

He probably knew on some level but puts it out of his mind as somebody else's problem. It's a habit of behavior disordered people.

[mercuryblues]

70. Everyone, please remember

Lawyer/client privilege is broken one the lawyer commits a crime with the client. IOW they can't hide behind lawyer/client privilege, nor their position as White House counsel, when they are called in to testify

[ancianita]

74. Thanks! Good to know. This could become interesting fact finding for Schiff.

[MFGsunny]

72. Making a (long) list and counting it twice, gonna find out who's naughty and truly NOT nice!

KARMA
KARMA
KARMA

[superpatriotman]

73. Why didn't the whistleblower go to Mueller?

Ponderous

[ancianita]

75. I think you're aware that Mueller no longer has any position in govt. The one he had, as Special

Counsel, was so specialized that he wouldn't have had any authority to interview or intervene for the whistleblower. Mueller was gone by the time DNI Dan Coats resigned, anyway.

All that is irrelevant, anyway, because the Federal Whistleblower Protection Enhancement Act of 2012 lays out the explicit process for transferring information, with the ultimate destination being the people's First Branch of oversight, Congress.

WH and DOJ henchmen forced the DNI to delay the info transference to Congress, but once the whistleblower lawyered up the info was delivered. The whistleblower's role was so legally flawless it was inevitable.

Mueller is brilliant. But having to follow the rule of law, he couldn't credibly represent the whistleblower on this issue. ANYone in the FBI can investigate, indict, obtain evidence and prosecute under their leadership, but not even Christopher Wray could LEGALLY represent an intelligence employee.