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struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:51 PM Sep 2019

Pence advised against releasing partial transcript

BY JOHN BOWDEN - 09/27/19 07:21 AM EDT

Vice President Pence urged President Trump not to release a memo detailing his call with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky this week amid a scandal over Trump's efforts to persuade the Ukrainian leader to direct an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden.

The Wall Street Journal reported Friday that Pence fell in line and ultimately supported the report's public release, but privately counseled Trump against the matter when it was first raised. The White House eventually released the rough transcript, according to the Journal, because Trump felt that Republicans were losing the messaging battle in the press ...

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463337-pence-advised-trump-against-releasing-partial-transcript-of-ukraine

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Pence advised against releasing partial transcript (Original Post) struggle4progress Sep 2019 OP
Pence seeks to dodge impeachment spotlight struggle4progress Sep 2019 #1
You don't say! SunSeeker Sep 2019 #2
Trump encourages questions to Pence struggle4progress Sep 2019 #3
Scandal will test Pence struggle4progress Sep 2019 #4
Maxine Waters says Pence and AG Involved struggle4progress Sep 2019 #5
I'm guessing that Mother SoCalNative Sep 2019 #6
Pence Could Be In Trouble, Too struggle4progress Sep 2019 #7
Ha! Donny sure showed him! tanyev Sep 2019 #8
Stonewall more. Sage advice from an actual politician. A "total stiff", but an actual pol. maxsolomon Sep 2019 #9
There's already a book about it diva77 Sep 2019 #10

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
1. Pence seeks to dodge impeachment spotlight
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:55 PM
Sep 2019

By Toluse Olorunnipa and
Ashley Parker September 26 at 7:46 PM

... Pence was in his home state, sticking to the script.

“I came to Indiana to say it’s time for Congress to pass the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement, and pass it this year,” Pence said at an Indianapolis machinery plant ...

The whistleblower complaint, released Thursday, said Pence canceled a planned trip to Ukraine at the direction of Trump, who was seeking to pressure the Ukrainians to help him politically ...

Trump’s comments — which administration officials said were not seen internally as trying to undermine Pence — set off a debate inside the administration about whether to release the vice president’s transcripts ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/pence-seeks-to-dodge-impeachment-spotlight-as-his-ukrainian-moves-attract-notice/2019/09/26/d397bdea-e07a-11e9-be96-6adb81821e90_story.html

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
3. Trump encourages questions to Pence
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 01:58 PM
Sep 2019

By ABBEY MARSHALL
09/25/2019 05:33 PM EDT
Updated 09/25/2019 05:48 PM EDT

... “I think you should ask for Vice President Pence’s conversation, because he had a couple of conversations also,” Trump said at a news conference on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York ...

Some of Trump’s top aides have also been drawn into the scandal. The Washington Post reported that Trump asked his acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, to hold back millions of dollars in military aid to Ukraine just days before the July 25 call with Zelensky, and the memo of Trump’s call showed the president urging Zelensky to work with Attorney General William Barr to investigate the Bidens.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/09/25/trump-pence-ukraine-phone-calls-1512771

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
4. Scandal will test Pence
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:00 PM
Sep 2019

Maureen Groppe, USA TODAY
Published 4:00 a.m. ET Sept. 27, 2019
Updated 6:23 a.m. ET Sept. 27, 2019

... When Pence substituted for Trump at the last minute on a trip to Poland this month, he had a private meeting with Zelensky. During a news conference the next day, Pence was asked whether he discussed Biden with Zelensky.

“The answer is no,” Pence said.

He gave a less direct response to the question of whether he could assure Ukraine that a hold up of military assistance was not related to efforts by Trump allies to try to dig up dirt on Biden ...

“He essentially demurred,” <Viola Gienger, a research scholar at the New York University School of Law> wrote in an essay for JustSecurity.org, an online forum for analysis of U.S. national security law and policy ...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/09/27/mike-pence-what-trump-ukraine-scandal-mean-vp/3778434002/

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
5. Maxine Waters says Pence and AG Involved
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:04 PM
Sep 2019

Sarah Mimms BuzzFeed News Reporter
Kadia Goba BuzzFeed News Reporter

Last updated on September 27, 2019, at 1:27 p.m. ET
Posted on September 27, 2019, at 12:18 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON — Rep. Maxine Waters, one of the six Democratic committee chairs leading the House’s impeachment investigation, told BuzzFeed .. she believes both .. Barr and .. Pence were involved in .. Trump’s attempts to pressure Ukraine ...

Waters .. chairs the House Financial Services Committee, which has been looking into Trump’s finances and will have a say on what articles of impeachment the House pursues against the president ...

Both Barr and Pence are named in a whistleblower complaint alleging Trump abused his office in a conversation with .. Zelensky ...

“They’re all involved ... First of all, we have seen that no matter what the president does, they come up with a kind of messaging to defend him. No matter what it is, none of them have had the courage, the patriotism, or the guts to stand up for what is right for our country. So I expect that Pence is part of this conspiracy to try to get Ukraine to do something in a fake investigation and come out with some dirt on Biden,” Waters said. “So I’m looking forward to that coming out in the hearings that will be done by the Judiciary Committee as they take up the impeachment resolution” ...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/sarahmimms/maxine-waters-pence-barr-ukraine-trump-impeachment

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
7. Pence Could Be In Trouble, Too
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 02:06 PM
Sep 2019

CHRIS WALKER September 27, 2019

... Pence reportedly was against the idea of releasing a memorandum detailing the conversation between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky ...

The reluctance to release the information, however, could land Pence in some hot water.

According to previous reporting from HillReporter.com, the communication between the two presidents, according to the whistleblower and the sources they spoke with, was improperly placed in a server ordinarily reserved for information deemed to be of a highly-classified nature.

Officials told the whistleblower that “they were ‘directed’ by White House lawyers to remove the electronic transcript from [a different] computer system,” and to place it into the classified one. The whistleblower detailed the situation in their complaint ...

https://hillreporter.com/report-details-how-mike-pence-could-be-in-trouble-too-46745

maxsolomon

(33,220 posts)
9. Stonewall more. Sage advice from an actual politician. A "total stiff", but an actual pol.
Fri Sep 27, 2019, 05:57 PM
Sep 2019

Without the transcription, there'd be no corroboration of the Whistleblower complaint.

Trump is hoist by his own petard. He Self-Impeached.

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