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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:50 AM Sep 2019

If this happens, It could be the final nail in Trump's coffin.

If the witnesses named in the whistle blower complaint come forward, testify in an open hearing and verify everything in the complaint, that would be Game, Set, Match.

There would be no way for Trump and the Republicans to defend that. It would destroy all their bullshit talking points they are using now.

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hurple

(1,306 posts)
1. Nah
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:58 AM
Sep 2019

They'd just move the goalposts again like they've been doing nearly everyday for the past 3 years.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
14. 30 went better with the three.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:21 AM
Sep 2019

And if my dear departed grandmother is to be believed, it’s probably been going on well over a century.

I have no reason not to believe her.

Thanks for the fix!

BumRushDaShow

(128,897 posts)
18. Oh it has
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:32 PM
Sep 2019

(or at least close) which is why FDR got elected. And as my mother always used to say, Republicans were out of power in Congress for 60 years after that (except for one brief period and they were out for 40 years since the 'early '50s when she first started voting).

Baitball Blogger

(46,702 posts)
2. They need formal assurances of immunity.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:58 AM
Sep 2019

In other words, they each need to file paperwork as whistleblowers.

Just a guess.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
3. House might even open their rules to allow a sitting
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 09:58 AM
Sep 2019

President to question the witnesses. Are you up for it Trump? You can use the Republican Representatives' time. This is the opportunity to confront your accusers. Schiff should propose it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. t-rump can't even give a
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:11 AM
Sep 2019

coherent deposition nor properly answer interrogatories . . .

How many attorneys would represent him? That would be sorta fun see the House Republicans carry on about unjust impeachment and constant apologizes while kissing his arse.

brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
4. Just to be clear, the Whistleblower CANNOT "verify everything in the complaint"
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:00 AM
Sep 2019

He was not a direct witness; what he can prospectively do is name sources from the White House who were.

Desert grandma

(804 posts)
11. YOU'RE RIGHT
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:37 AM
Sep 2019

Since he was not a direct witness, he/she cannot independently verify the allegations. However, I thought that the Inspector General investigated and found these allegations to be "credible and urgent". That talking point that the GOP is using should be countered by the fact that a Trump appointee IG investigated these claims and found them credible.

brush

(53,771 posts)
16. He/she did provide names. And the whistle blower can't testify in an open hearing as his/her life...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:59 AM
Sep 2019

has been threatened, along with the people who provided the information. trump called them spies and imply that spies be dealt with harshly.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
9. Nope, if the WB doesn't twerk in front of congress the M$M will call it a bust like Mueller. I'm not
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:13 AM
Sep 2019

... expecting much out of the WB seeing we already have the transcripts and the M$M bar for entertainment from the WB is too high.

Orrex

(63,203 posts)
10. I'm so tired of this "nail" and "coffin" talk being figurative
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:26 AM
Sep 2019

When is that stupid motherfucker going to have the massive stroke that he's been teasing all these months?

lark

(23,097 posts)
13. You are such an optimist.
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 10:52 AM
Sep 2019

Nothing will ever stop Russian Repug rw lies - it's what they do. They will just make up more BS. Kevin McCarthy was attacking Scott Pelley for misreading the call, but Pelley was reading it exactly. McCarthy had not read it and was just lying, this won't stop from him, Jeffords or Nunes or Gaetz or any of their ilk - they are just too wed to their lies to ever state the real truth - IMO. There might be a few repugs - like Hurd - that actually care about having a treasonous president, but most won't give a shit about the truth.

brush

(53,771 posts)
15. An open hearing is out as the whistle blower has been threatened by trump. It will have to be...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 11:55 AM
Sep 2019

a closed hearing as one of trump's sycophants might take it upon him/herself to harm the whistle blower if his/her identity is revealed—although the effin/ NYT did its best to narrow down drastically who the whistle blower might be. Talk about irresponsible journalism.

lame54

(35,287 posts)
17. They'll push back harder and more erratic...
Mon Sep 30, 2019, 12:23 PM
Sep 2019

There are plenty of surprises coming

Trump's just getting warmed up

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