Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:20 AM

Did Trump know about the simmering scandal when he fired Dan Coates?

I know that Dan Coates said he was unaware of the scandal, but is it possible that Trump fired him partly in anticipation of the whistleblower complaint? Granted, it would have required ample forethought, but perhaps someone (Barr?) advised Trump of how things might go?

That is, Trump wanted a newly minted loyalist in the DNI position, so that *should* a WB complaint proceed, it might be nipped in the bud?

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Did Trump know about the simmering scandal when he fired Dan Coates? (Original post)	intrepidity	Oct 2019	OP
Or maybe Coates refused to go along with something Trump wanted him to do. n/t	pnwmom	Oct 2019	#1
I think this is most likely	get the red out	Oct 2019	#7
Interesting question	canetoad	Oct 2019	#2
His testimony to the senate intelligence committee...	cynatnite	Oct 2019	#4
Turns out that the CIA counsel had notified the White House and DoJ of the "problem"	dawg day	Oct 2019	#3
Right, that's what made me think of this	intrepidity	Oct 2019	#5
Yes, WH knew well before. That's why they covered up by moving "transcript" to classified server.	Bernardo de La Paz	Oct 2019	#6
Security officials	Peace06	Oct 2019	#8

Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:31 AM

pnwmom (107,313 posts)

1. Or maybe Coates refused to go along with something Trump wanted him to do. n/t

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 03:28 AM

get the red out (13,436 posts)

7. I think this is most likely

Trump can't deal with anyone disagreeing with him.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:34 AM

canetoad (15,547 posts)

2. Interesting question

Was there a reason given for Coates' firing?

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Response to canetoad (Reply #2)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:39 AM

cynatnite (31,011 posts)

4. His testimony to the senate intelligence committee...

didn't match the WH's assertions.

In other words, Coats was fired for telling the truth about climate change, ISIS and North Korea.

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Response to intrepidity (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:38 AM

dawg day (7,947 posts)

3. Turns out that the CIA counsel had notified the White House and DoJ of the "problem"

that later was turned into the whistleblower complaint.

A week or so before the complaint was filed, the White House knew that there had been an inquiry from the CIA agent.
I think Coats "resigned" or was fired just after the call. (Call: July 25, Coats fired/resigned July 27).
I'm really not clear on whether he truly resigned. But it could be that he expressed some objections -- he might have heard the call-- and that was the last straw.

Here's something of an explanation, but what's important is that a week or so before the complaint, the White House already knew that there was an investigation and quashed it.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/26/us/politics/who-is-whistleblower.html

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Response to dawg day (Reply #3)

Tue Oct 1, 2019, 01:42 AM

intrepidity (5,709 posts)