Box after box of Sudafed, piled on top of one another in photo of Pres. tRump

[coeur_de_lion]

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[Wounded Bear]

1. He calls himself a "germophile"...

probably just has allergies and has developed a jones for antihistamine meds.

[IggleDuer]

9. Sudafed is not an antihistamine

It is a decongestant. It is used to make methamphetamine and is considered anCintrolled Substance.

[MaryMagdaline]

11. Even without converting to meth, makes you very hyper!

[IggleDuer]

43. And could do wonders on your heart.

Combine that with the KFCs and Big Macs!

[coeur_de_lion]

52. A wise man once said to me

that the best thing for the country would be that tRump dies in his sleep.

[erronis]

65. Not my idea of a wise idea. Be better if he dies behind bars after a nice long drug-free

recovery and time to think about his life.

Maybe even "come to bejezus".

How can he ever atone?

[coeur_de_lion]

73. I wish for that too

but I don't think it will happen. Unless we get Pence arrested too, he will pardon him.

[alfredo]

102. Presidential pardons aren't going to save him from NY

[alfredo]

104. Are we sure it isn't a deep fake.

We need to be right.

[coeur_de_lion]

111. He posted the photo himself

in 2016.

[alfredo]

115. OK He's good at self sabotage

[coeur_de_lion]

116. He's so good at it

but tRumpers don't care. They like him BECAUSE he's such a doofus.

[alfredo]

123. I know, and we need to mobilize our voters

[coeur_de_lion]

126. Agreed

[3catwoman3]

93. With his head shaved.

I would pay big bucks to either watch him getting his head chased of being the one who got to do it.

[Maraya1969]

106. That is why that have said he had so much energy.

But I've bought that stuff and you have to give identification and sign for it. I think there is a waiting period where you can't buy it again. After that time had passed you can more.

[crimycarny]

82. I think the Sudafed is a smoking gun for Adderall abuse

One of the biggest side effects of taking Adderall, even as prescribed, is severe nasal congestion. That's the reason for all the Sudafed, not any "high". If Trump is abusing Adderall as he is accused of, Sudafed is too lightweight and would not give him the high he would crave.

The fact that he has so much of the UK formulation of Sudafed is intriguing. The active ingredient in the US Sudafed formulation, pseudoephedrine, on top of Adderall would make his heart race like crazy. The UK version does not contain pseudoephedrine and the boxes in the photo have both a day time and night time formulation. I don't know enough about the UK version to know if it causes the same racing heart symptoms as the US version, but there has to be a reason he is choosing that formulation over the US.

[Ms. Toad]

96. Not according to side effect lists.

It's not even listed as a rare side effect on the sites I checked

https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-63163/adderall-oral/details/list-sideeffects
https://www.rxlist.com/adderall-side-effects-drug-center.htm

In fact one site I found said it was used to treat congestion.

[cwydro]

37. Do you mean a germaphobe?

A germaphile would mean he loves germs. Even for him, that’d be a bit odd.

[OMGWTF]

60. Germaphobes don't raw dog porn stars.

[Hotler]

112. "raw dog" never heard that one before.

[coeur_de_lion]

113. I have no idea what that means

Don't think I want to know.

[shanti]

2. More from that Twitter link - whoa!

Especially the end tweet.

Link to tweet

?s=20

[coeur_de_lion]

5. Yep very revealing

He isn't just nuts he is high as a kite 24/7.

[forgotmylogin]

71. Even if he was using it legitimately...

Where I live, you can't buy more than 1-2 boxes at a time - essentially whatever is a 30-day supply. I count at least 3 in that drawer. You don't make a special drawer and leave it open for easy access for something that's not special somehow. Stuff that's used frequently always floats on top.

Isn't congestion usually a common potential indicator of someone using drugs that are snorted?

[coeur_de_lion]

72. Congestion yes

But maybe every once in a while he runs out of Adderal and has to go to something else.

[Ms. Toad]

97. It's a federal limit.

https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/meth/cma2005.htm

States can impose additional limitations.

I've been in fights with pharmacies around here becuase they post the signs with less restrictive state law - but they still have to enforce the federal restrictions. They refuse to provide the drugs my spouse and child need (allowable under state law they had posted, but not under federal law). (Neither can obtain a full month's supply under the federal guidelines, since (if I recall correctly) it is actually ony 28 days' worth. So it's a darn good thing that I don't have allergies.)

Fortunately, their allergies have reduced since the time the law was enacted, so it hasn't been an issue reently

[RobinA]

98. That's The

pseudoephedrine stuff you can’t buy much of. If the UK version doesn’t have that, it wouldn’t matter how much was bought. That, and the uncontrolled version doesn't work worth crap. Hell, you’d need three boxes.

[Generic Other]

76. Does this help?

Link to tweet

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. Maybe he's cooking meth.

[gelsdorf]

4. One of the reasons that Sudafed is on the 'restricted' list

is because it was being used to make meth along other stimulants
Just sayin'

[jmowreader]

6. I can't imagine Trump as a do-it-yourselfer...

...so he probably knows a guy who knows a guy who turned that Sudafed into meth for him.

[Mike 03]

7. Larry Kudlow and Lou Dobbs

do the actual cooking.

[CentralMass]

29. Now that makes sense.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

41. "Breaking Bad" Republican style.

[MaryMagdaline]

8. I had to show ID to get Sudafed in Florida. They limit so many pills per month

I can just see trump sending employees to go get it for him!!

[coeur_de_lion]

10. The Sudafed he has there

is from the UK. They don't have regulations against it.

[MaryMagdaline]

14. Interesting!

[usaf-vet]

68. And I bet Air Force One avoids U.S. Customs.

[coeur_de_lion]

70. Most likely it does

[JHB]

87. The original photo is from the 2016 Cinco de Mayo "taco bowl" tweet...

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...so before he would have had access to AF1.

Hmm, how tough would it have been for him to have his UK golf courses buy in quantity and pass it to him in NYC?

[MarcA]

21. Laws are increasingly for the order and control of the little people.

Lawmakers, Presidents, billionaire CEOs and other rulers don't have to submit to pee tests
to prove they are in a drug-free workplace like they force on their subjects.

[MaryMagdaline]

28. Absolutely correct!!

[Spider Jerusalem]

12. Phenylephrine does nothing

there have been studies; it's no more effective than placebo (and unlike pseudoephedrine is not an amphetamine precursor; it has no speedy effects).

[coeur_de_lion]

17. Okay. So why does he have boxes and boxes of the stuff?

[crimycarny]

80. Damage to sinuses after snorting adderall

I don't think Trump is abusing Sudafed for a high, I think it's far more likely it's to treat sinus issues caused by Adderall. Adderall can cause severe sinus congestion, even if taken as prescribed. In Trump's case it is alleged he snorts Adderall, which would cause major damage to his sinuses. I think those boxes and boxes of Sudafed are more relevant as proof that the Adderall abuse accusations are true versus an indicator that he is abusing Sudafed for a "high".

https://www.drugs.com/answers/adderall-severe-nasal-congestion-anyone-tips-stop-1399596.html

[coeur_de_lion]

81. Interesting! Thanks!

[mwooldri]

26. So why has Trump got imported Sudafed?

The stuff not with the pseudoephedrine?

[Spider Jerusalem]

32. no idea?

[cwydro]

38. It works better.

I bought it in the UK too; no law against it there.

I suffer from allergies year round.

[docgee]

58. It's to relieve his congestion from all the Adderall.

[Ms. Toad]

124. None of the side effects I can find for Adderall include congestion.

Not even the rare side effects.

One of references I found even indicated Adderall could be used to treat congestion.

[docgee]

127. He snorts the Adderall.

[Ms. Toad]

129. One of the earlier contentions in this thread was:

One of the biggest side effects of taking Adderall, even as prescribed, is severe nasal congestion.

[ret5hd]

30. Are you saying those are boxes of phenylephrine?

[Spider Jerusalem]

34. Yep

it's on the front of the box:


(Paracetamol aka acetaminophen, phenylephrine and guaifenesin)

[sarge43]

62. When he's stressed, he starts sniffing; really showed up during the debates

and that insane presser Wednesday.

Houston, we have a pattern.

[octoberlib]

107. UK version of Sudafed contains caffeine

which is why Trump gobbles them all day long. Trump is a stimulant addict according to Noel Casler, who worked with him on Celebrity Apprentice and some of his pageants. Trump started snorting Adderall in the late nineties. He burned a hole in his septum from all the cocaine and amphetamines he snorted in the 80’s and have to have it repaired. You can see the scar in some pictures. Casler has pictures of the Hells Angels at Celebrity Apprentice after parties. They were there because They were Trump’s amphetamine source.

Casler had tweeted last year that Trump was an amphetamine addict and gobbled UK Sudafed all day. Somebody found a picture . Trump’s also dyslexic and his cue cards had to be spelled out phonetically.

Seriously go through his tweets. @caslernoel Casler said he contacted the Clinton campaign in 2016 with all his information. He broke his NDA but can’t convince directors, ADs who worked with Trump to do the same . They’re scared not only of Trump but Mark Burnett, who threatened them with lawsuits and being blackballed from the industry if they talked.

[3catwoman3]

94. The phenylephrine variety is what is available...

...on the regular pharmacy shelves here in the US. The original formulation continuing pseudoephedrine is the one you have to sign for.

[RobinA]

99. So My

one woman anecdotal study is validated, the over the counter stuff is completely useless. I can’t even believe they sell the crap. Personally, no placebo ever cured a sinus headache.

[Newest Reality]

13. Not that I am at all surpised...

That thread is revealing that Trump has also been a regular user of contraband and has a penchant for being doped up on a regular basis. I am not shocked, but this puts some meat on it.

Hmmm. Who suspected this? People do mention Adderall, but this points to another potential factor concerning his behavior. While personality disorders are one thing, he could also be just really fucked up and stoned; drugged up on one or more licit and illicit substances and he does seem to cycle hard.

This is interesting. A drug addict. Makes prefect sense.

Oh, and Jim Jones and L. Ron Hubbard were both heavy drug users right up to their deaths.

Now what?

[shanti]

59. And Hitler

was a tweaker too. Birds of a feather, and all that.

[Newest Reality]

63. Thanks!

Good one. Better living through chemistry, I guess. It's not easy being mean.

[Lulu KC]

15. Thank you

This is an interesting thread.

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

16. That sure is a weird expression on his face

Apparently he's trying to force a smile. But it look's like a lunatic's grin.

[Scarsdale]

78. He always looks as though

he's got a phart caught crosswise, when he "smiles"

[jpak]

18. Street meth

yup

[pecosbob]

19. Sudafed's formulation of pseudoephedrine gives some like myself a significant speed buzz

then there of course is it's use in making bathtub crank. Prior to it's rise in popularity among methamphetamine makers it was more or less unregulated and was abused by some. In the U.S. Actifed no longer contains pseudoephedrine.

Common adverse drug reactions (ADRs) associated with pseudoephedrine therapy include central nervous system stimulation, insomnia, nervousness, excitability, dizziness and anxiety. Infrequent ADRs include tachycardia or palpitations. Rarely, pseudoephedrine therapy may be associated with mydriasis (dilated pupils), hallucinations, arrhythmias, hypertension, seizures and ischemic colitis;[10] as well as severe skin reactions known as recurrent pseudo-scarlatina, systemic contact dermatitis, and nonpigmenting fixed drug eruption.[11] Pseudoephedrine, particularly when combined with other drugs including narcotics, may also play a role in the precipitation of episodes of paranoid psychosis.[12] It has also been reported that pseudoephedrine, among other sympathomimetic agents, may be associated with the occurrence of stroke.[13]

Precautions and contraindications
Pseudoephedrine is contraindicated in patients with diabetes mellitus, cardiovascular disease, severe or uncontrolled hypertension, severe coronary artery disease, prostatic hypertrophy, hyperthyroidism, closed angle glaucoma, or by pregnant women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoephedrine

[coeur_de_lion]

22. I am super sensitive to stimulants

I absolutely cannot take sudafed or I will be up with no sleep 3 nights running.

If he takes it every day his brain must be gone by now.

[pecosbob]

27. If I take I'm like the energizer bunny for about six hours, but I get real loopy.

[MaryMagdaline]

31. Me, too

Can’t take most cold medicines

[smirkymonkey]

42. I won't take it either. I can't stand the racy feeling it gives me.

I can't understand why some people find that pleasant.

[coeur_de_lion]

45. Me neither!

Makes me feel jittery just thinking about it.

[snacker]

55. Same here.

That "racy feeling" is a perfect description of how it makes me feel.

[RobinA]

100. Well, Some People

don’t get the racy feeling. I am a fairly regular consumer of SudaFed from September until about February each year and it will keep me awake, but I don’t feel racy. My father, on the other hand, wouldn’t touch the stuff because he took it once and got the tachycardia big time.

[smirkymonkey]

103. I react like your father. I feel like my heart is going to pound out of my chest

or like I am going to have a heart attack. It's a scary feeling. I can't stand the stuff. I don't understand why people are attracted to stimulants like that. I don't react well to drugs in general, which I suppose is a good thing.

[Phentex]

128. I take it when desperate to breathe but I take half...

and spread it out throughout the day. I don't get the racy heartbeat but I do get a creepy crawly feeling on my head. BUT I can breathe for several hours after taking it so it's something I like to keep around. I buy a box of the real stuff once every few years.

[Wellstone ruled]

36. That explains his skin blotchs from time to time

as well as his hyperactivity during his Morning TV show for the fawning Press Corp. Jeff Mason finally found the Hot button,hope more do the same.

[coeur_de_lion]

114. Explains the dilated pupils too

[Wellstone ruled]

117. Oh boy ain't that the truth.

His Contact Lens have to be damn uncomfortable. Vanity is a bitch.

[coeur_de_lion]

118. Golly he wears contacts?

[Wellstone ruled]

121. Spotted them from the get go.

Caught the tells,mostly light reflections,certain type of blinking know to us Lens wearers when certain fragrances or fin dust is present. Forward head tilt in bright sunlight or bright lights,notice the use of his hand to deflect light.

Appears he likes to wear the super soft large lens's that are popular in enhancing eye color. Think Stage Crafting.

[coeur_de_lion]

122. What about the dilated pupils?

[Wellstone ruled]

130. Lens just enhance that.

Cow eye effect.

[forgotmylogin]

75. I gotta say it works.

I was stuck at work dying from a severe head cold and the Sudafed formulated with Aleve was the only thing that made me start to feel human again.

I believe it's similar to Excedrin's combo of aspirin+caffeine.

[OneBlueDotBama]

20. Hockey players call them, rattlers...

from the sound of a bottle of sudafed being passed around a dressing room.

Nasty stuff when abused...

[RobinA]

101. It's Banned

in a lot of sports. It increases the amount of O2 the blood will carry.

[EveHammond13]

23. holy shit

[Roland99]

24. Someone noted it's a box only available from the UK

Link to tweet

[SCVDem]

33. Mucus relief?

Wouldn't that act like water on the Wicked Witch?

I'm melting!

[EveHammond13]

25. and I thought the interesting part was the Marla Maples bikini photo

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under his left hand

[coeur_de_lion]

35. Seriously?

I don't see that.

[EveHammond13]

47. yes - it is from People when she was on Dancing with the Stars

[EveHammond13]

48. go to post 44 and click on the picture in the tweet

the picture should enlarge

[coeur_de_lion]

51. I see it now

Good eye!

[Sogo]

39. That photo....

....is the one he used to claim how much he loved Cinco de Mayo. ( he probably threw that tostada out afterwards and had someone go get them a burger.)

[tblue37]

40. Are we sure this isn't a photoshopped Rather trap? nt

[NurseJackie]

44. Could be... but here's his "original" tweet about it.

Link to tweet

[coeur_de_lion]

53. Good sleuthing!

[NurseJackie]

46. This made me laugh...

https://gawker.com/donald-trump-at-work-looking-at-bikini-photos-of-his-e-1774996710?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_facebook&utm_source=gawker_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow

Donald Trump at Work, Looking at Bikini Photos of His Ex-Wife



The photo in question is actually part of a People spread on Trump’s second ex-wife, Marla Maples, who parlayed her former husband’s newfound fame into a spot on Dancing With the Stars this season. Here’s the page he was looking at:

[EveHammond13]

50. there it is

[coeur_de_lion]

56. I remember the skiing incident

I lived in NYC at the time, and there were photos of Ivana in the Daily News skiing backwards, shaking her finger at tRump.

Ivana was a very athletic skier.

[Niagara]

120. I remember the Standoff on the Slopes mentioned on the top right photo section of this article

What kind of jerk has his mistress and wife in the same vicinity of each other? It's a revealing warning sign of how much of a coward he truly is.

Thank you for sharing this post.

[MontanaMama]

49. I can't take Sudafed at all.

Makes my heart race to the point where it’s scary. I get twitchy and weird...wait! Like MF 45!! Twitchy and weird...

[coeur_de_lion]

57. Yep!

He's twitchy and weird 24/7.

I wonder when was the last time he had 8 hours sleep?

[MontanaMama]

92. Never.

The MF is broken. On every level.

[mysteryowl]

54. It can be used as a stimulant

I looked it up on an internet search

[rampartc]

84. sudafed can be cooked in a meth lab

[CharleyDog]

61. It is amazing Mr. Soon to be Impeached, under great stress now, doesn't have

some real health issues! I mean, taking this stuff should cause terrible hypertension, which damages the kidneys, heart, (erections), brain, etc etc. He should collapse, maybe he will.

[unitedwethrive]

74. Has he ever had a REAL physical while in office?

Shouldn't the American people know the health of our leader?

[H2O Man]

64. Recommended.

His nasty heavy breathing annoys me.

[coeur_de_lion]

66. Every single thing about him

annoys me. I can only listen to him speak when he is implicating himself in a crime, as he has been last several days.

[H2O Man]

67. That he has!

I find myself wishing I was in the press pool when he talks. I'd like to tell him about himself. I'd make him cry.

[coeur_de_lion]

69. Now that would be entertaining as hell

I was amazed that the young reporter (Mason?) who sparked his outbursts (at the presser with the Finnish President) remained so calm and polite.

I could NEVER have done that.

[Brainfodder]

77. Long term use of that drug & diet colas lunatic, perhaps?

The doctoring of his doctor reports, that wasn't even above board?

So silly and dodging, we are stupid for not having a fast solve for all this corruption, that's how deep it is now.

Meanwhile, mother nature is asking for us to hold her beer and we are acting like it's optional.

[BlueIdaho]

79. Does it really surprise anyone the Fatso is a drug addict?

I’m just surprised he’s feeding his habit with such shitty drugs. Where is Dr Feelgood?

[coeur_de_lion]

89. Nope no one at all

The guy who revealed his Adderall addiction also says because of it, he has to wear adult diapers. Long term use causes incontinence.

[BlueIdaho]

105. Is that the guy that was the staffer

On The Apprentice? I think I saw an interview with him.

[coeur_de_lion]

109. Noel Casler

He's a comedian now. Don't know for sure what he did on the Apprentice.

[SWBTATTReg]

83. Ha, I thought that he was a dope head (intelligence-wise) but in reality, he really is a dope head!

[Skittles]

86. wtf

I have taken Sudafed on occasion but never had I had more than ONE box.

[coeur_de_lion]

88. No one is allowed to buy more than one

[area51]

90. kick. n/t

[struggle4progress]

91. Does he have a meth lab in the closet?

[3catwoman3]

95. How is it that this SOB isn't...

...6 feet under already?

[octoberlib]

108. The UK Sudafed isn't the problem. The amphetamines

are. This version of Sudafed does not contain pseudoephedrine which is used in making meth. It’s the Adderall abuse that’s causing Trump’s pupil dilation and sweating. Read through @caslernoel ‘s tweets, all of them for more information. He was Ivanka’s handler on Celebrity Apprentice and broke his NDA. This guy’s thread is just full of misinformation and he’s been called out on it repeatedly.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

110. Ok Adderall..

I take Adderall for ADHD. Have had it all my life and it runs in my family. One of my sisters takes it too.
I never got sinus congestion from it. Mostly I get a bit of dry mouth.
And it calms me.
If it hypes a person taking it they are misusing Adderall.

[coeur_de_lion]

119. The guy who spilled the beans said

he takes Adderall before public speeches because it calms him down. Because, he cannot read well so he gets nervous when he has to read a speech.

[Ms. Toad]

125. Your experience is consistent with everything I can find

about Adderall - congestion is not even listed as a rare side effect (let alone a common one).

[NCLefty]

131. He's bragged he doesn't drink coffee but that box says it has caffeine.

The Trumps are phony in every regard!