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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPG&E shut-off: Your food is spoiled, business shut down--can you file a claim with the utility?
Surprise! No.
Have fun if you are poor and lose your fridge's contents
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/PG-E-shutoff-Your-food-is-spoiled-business-shut-14502325.php
Its been three days, your power is still out due to dangerous fire weather and youre forced to dump your spoiled spaghetti and meatball leftovers and the rest of your perishables. Your neighbors restaurant has been closed and hes lost $3,000 in business.
Can either of you get reimbursed?
The answer is no. Pacific Gas & Electric has many variables that factor into when it issues a Public Safety Power Shutoff. Its a nuanced decision. But what is black and white is the utilitys policy not to reimburse customers for losses during an outage.
We do not reimburse customers for losses, as power will be shut off for safety when gusty winds and dry conditions, combined with a heightened fire risk, threaten a portion of the electric system, said spokeswoman Mayra Tostado.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Grrrr.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)having monopoly owning your alleged services. We need to go back to the publicly owned utilities, this is one example of why. And, lest we forget Enron....
still_one
(92,061 posts)This isn't related to what Enron did, or whether PG&E is a public utility or not
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)and yes, I get it about the Santa Ana winds and the drought and the fires and the losses and also the way PG&E does business. They are not necessarily your best bet.
And I also get how this situation came into being and you should think about how the major, privately owned unities have managed to keep gaining revenue yet never seem to have any interest in maintaining their stuff which comes back around to why they decided in their ultimate and unmatched wisdom to just shut down half the state.
still_one
(92,061 posts)shortages as a price gouging scheme
Also, the second set of power shut offs was cancelled today because the high wind forecast didnt develop, which is just and aside from me, not related to what we are discussing
Cattledog
(5,910 posts)hunter
(38,302 posts)That's the way people roll all around the world wherever power is unreliable.
Harbor Freight here we come!
still_one
(92,061 posts)Arching and other issues that were susceptible to sparking fires
As for solar, the California legislature has a bill requiring new homes built in California to be equipped with solar
Most solar in the US today does not store energy. If power is cut from the grid, the solar supplying the power will stop also
in2herbs
(2,944 posts)you have NO power regardless of how many solar panels you have.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)California ending up owning this Pig.
alwaysinasnit
(5,059 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)will do their best to try and run the BK clock. Knowing full well they cannot pay the those Damage Claims.
California State Legislature will pull the plug on these Guys Shortly after today's power cut offs. Understand PG&E has not done much Maintenance in their Power Line Corridors.
alwaysinasnit
(5,059 posts)PG&E dry so there is no $$$ for adequate maintenance). There is public pressure for the state to do something about this untenable situation. As for the parent company, it can either let PG&E get torn up in bankruptcy court and cut it's losses and the massive liability tied to PG&E, or entice the state to buy it. This situation is complex and I don't pretend to know all the in's and out's, but there is no doubt our state is between a rock and a hard place. And we the residents will likely end up footing the bill in the end.
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)intrepidity
(7,275 posts)Can *probably* afford to lose some food to spoilage.
It's all the others I'm concerned for.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)This is where nationalization comes in handy. Go for it, CA. Turn it into the greenest utility in the world.
Demonaut
(8,914 posts)because they really know now, that powerlines cause fires
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)ronnie raygun who said trees cause fires?
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)roamer65
(36,744 posts)NickB79
(19,224 posts)It's no longer out on the horizon anymore.