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https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2019/11/01/white-house-vindman-ukraine-call-063892...
Eisenberg recorded Vindmans complaints in notes on a yellow legal pad, then conferred with his deputy Michael Ellis about how to handle the conversation because it was clearly sensitive, Vindman testified. The lawyers then decided to move the record of the call into the NSCs top-secret codeword systema server normally used to store highly classified material that only a small group of officials can access.
Vindman did not consider the move itself as evidence of a cover-up, according to a person familiar with his testimony. But he said he became disturbed when, a few days later, Eisenberg instructed him not to tell anyone about the callespecially because it was Vindmans job to coordinate the interagency process with regard to Ukraine policy.
Eisenbergs decision to move the call record to the codeword system following his conversation with Vindman was first reported by The Washington Post. But Eisenbergs subsequent request that Vindman not disclose the content of the call to anyone has not been previously reported.
uponit7771
(90,329 posts)... RayGun bit and acted like he didn't know nothing at least for a couple of months.
Botany
(70,483 posts)If you get this then you are a nerd.
dweller
(23,623 posts)🤔
but i'm a bit uncertain
✌🏼
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)and where it will occur, at the same time?
Yes, I'm a nerd.
Botany
(70,483 posts)Thanksgiving to 1/15/20 PDQ if we get to see the Mueller report. Where it will happen with a >75%
probability of being correct .... Trump will be on the golf course.
The uncertainty is about if the GOP Senators will stand up for America and do the right thing.
This is the biggest crime in America's history and we are dealing with the largest international
crime syndicate in the world. God only knows how many are owned by Putin.
OMGWTF
(3,949 posts)tblue37
(65,273 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)Beam me up.
Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)of that....I cant believe hed actually show up, hes got some deep dark secrets
Hes a big git, for sure
Hey, Eisenberg, do the right thing, how about it?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,659 posts)It's lawyers all the way down, like turtles.
erronis
(15,219 posts)Or Doctors of Philosophy who can only teach other people to be the same.
Godel-Escher-Bach and incomplete Turing machines.
central scrutinizer
(11,644 posts)New euphemism for treasonous
docgee
(870 posts)Where's the hold my breath emoji?
Actually they have to subpoena it, but it will be another count of obstruction when it isn't given up.
WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)infullview
(978 posts)and disbar him. Disbarred Lawyers are a bit like snakes that have been de-fanged.
Grins
(7,205 posts)Michael Ellis? Who was partnered with another WH freak - Ezra Cohen-Watnick - when GOP scum Devin Nunes Ubered over to the White House after dark to give behind-the-scenes info on confidential Congressional hearings? THAT Michael Ellis?
erronis
(15,219 posts)patphil
(6,162 posts)I would have thought it would take more than their direction to get the call moved to that top secret NSC server since they don't sit on the council.
I would think it would take at least one member of the NSC to agree to it.
I get the feeling the lawyers were granted the authority to do this by the NSC for the expressed purpose of burying sensitive materials without having to get the NSC directly involved.
After all, they would know if they contained information that might lead to embarrassment of the president, or even impeachment.
Patrick Phillips
NBachers
(17,097 posts)patphil
(6,162 posts)will have to go through some sort of vetting process, and any changes would be logged with before and after edits...a reviewable audit trail.
It would have to have been given a top secret designation to get put in there, so it would be read only to protect it from casual changes. Only a select few people would have write access to these documents.
I don't think the White House lawyers would be foolish enough to attempt to change it.
Patrick Phillips
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,311 posts)patphil
(6,162 posts)Very few people under 40 have ever even seen a floppy disk. Even CD's and DVD's are passe.
Ah, I have fond memories of the 1.2 MB floppies on my old Windows 3.1 computer.
Not!
Patrick Phillips
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,311 posts)patphil
(6,162 posts)Then I got a dual 5 1/4 inch, 340 thousand byte floppy disk unit that only cost $1,100. and I thought I really had something.
My how time has changed things.
I can now buy a 256 GB thumb drive for about $30.
That's over 213,000 1.2MB floppies!
We got old, didn't we?
And the world kept on changing.
Patrick Phillips
Karadeniz
(22,490 posts)Or encourage disobedience to the constitution or use joint defense to coordinate activities.
spanone
(135,815 posts)BootinUp
(47,136 posts)Youre the next contestant on the price of greed.
Blue Owl
(50,339 posts)n/t