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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 06:54 AM Nov 2019

Malcolm Nance: "Trump is openly working to destroy US Intelligence ... for Putin"



Malcolm Nance ✔ @MalcolmNance

This is dangerous. Trump is openly working to destroy US Intelligence ... for Putin. We have once chance to save this nation. Vote to Win. #NotThrowingAwayMyShot

Olga Lautman @olgaNYC1211

This is extremely dangerous Barr/Trump requesting info from our allies to take down our agencies. British official "it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence agencies"


6:41 AM - Nov 2, 2019
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Malcolm Nance: "Trump is openly working to destroy US Intelligence ... for Putin" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
Malcolm is absolutely correct..... FarPoint Nov 2019 #1
The country is in serious danger on several fronts. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #3
All true and MUST be stopped. democratisphere Nov 2019 #2
Trump is a witting asset for Vlad Putin Botany Nov 2019 #4
Trump enablers better start putting country over party. democrank Nov 2019 #5
How can the GOP sit by and allow this to happen? FakeNoose Nov 2019 #6
They appear to have taken Russian money just like Trump did ... nt Jarqui Nov 2019 #8
And Barr is helping them. Baitball Blogger Nov 2019 #7
somehow, that appears to at least be a violation of oath of office Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #20
Foreign Intelligence...if you're listening...release all recordings of Trump's calls with Putin sop Nov 2019 #9
K&R volstork Nov 2019 #10
That and the department of justice, duforsure Nov 2019 #11
Force him to run on that. world wide wally Nov 2019 #12
Welp, yesterday's headlines crickets Nov 2019 #13
treason Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #14
It is open treason in broad daylight. dalton99a Nov 2019 #15
Sheer treason going flat out. BSdetect Nov 2019 #16
It needs to be made crystal clear to the public what is going on and why. Garrett78 Nov 2019 #17
facts can't survive the cult of disinformation Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #19
AGREE x 1000,000,000 bluestarone Nov 2019 #18
LOCK. HIM. THE. FUCK. UP. Blue Owl Nov 2019 #21

FarPoint

(12,336 posts)
1. Malcolm is absolutely correct.....
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 07:04 AM
Nov 2019

Trump is also a willing participant in the treason....Make no mistake....he knows what he is doing and is motivated by greed at the least of his character defects.

Botany

(70,490 posts)
4. Trump is a witting asset for Vlad Putin
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 08:18 AM
Nov 2019

End of story. And will the republicans in the senate vote to stop him?

democrank

(11,093 posts)
5. Trump enablers better start putting country over party.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 08:28 AM
Nov 2019

It’s going to take a long time to correct all this damage.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
20. somehow, that appears to at least be a violation of oath of office
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 06:51 PM
Nov 2019

Surely neither Barr nor TrumPutin swore an oath to destroy the U.S. government.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
11. That and the department of justice,
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 09:37 AM
Nov 2019

And a lot more for Putin. If trump is given absolute power we will become just like Putin is in Russia. Trump will then be so corrupt, he'll be above the law, ignore judges and all of Congress, then put ivanke over the country while he plays more gold , and develops more schemes to funnel money into his and his families pockets like putins done to the Russian people stealing billions from them and businesses he's stolen or shaking them down from demanded playoffs. He will be a ruthless dictator if the GOP and judges allow this to continue, and he'll hurt them and his followers without consequences, and give everything Putin wants. His undermining our intelligence agencies should have every republican voicing opposition to him and his criminal enablers. Instead they are silent standing up for our country. No one saying anything after he's committed felonies and admitted it shows their contempt for everything this country has stood for. Trump and the GOP are the greatest national security risk we've ever had to our country, and hurting us all daily.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
12. Force him to run on that.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:27 AM
Nov 2019

His flag humping shouldn't be enough to overcome his overt desire to support Russia/Putin. I certainly hope we can beat that back.

crickets

(25,962 posts)
13. Welp, yesterday's headlines
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:35 AM
Nov 2019

that impeachment charges 'might broaden beyond Ukraine' sound a bit quaint now. This is treason, plain and simple.

'Wrap it up before the holidays!' Not happening. Anyone who was hoping for pardons if they got caught was kidding themselves because that isn't going to happen either. Thank goodness a pack of buffoons were in charge of this mess. Cleaning up is going to be long and bloody.

What a nightmare.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
14. treason
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:56 PM
Nov 2019
Article III, Section 3
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court.

The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted.


Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
17. It needs to be made crystal clear to the public what is going on and why.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 01:55 PM
Nov 2019

The AG going around the world in an effort to undermine the FBI and intelligence agencies is surreal, but it follows a pattern. The Republican Party has been trying for decades, with quite a bit of success, to undermine faith in government. Run up debt so as to cut entitlements, have corporations write legislation, deregulate industry, install heads of departments whose mission it is to erode those very departments, deny the reality of disproportionate injustice, etc.

Since the likes of Putin also wish to undermine democratic institutions for the purpose of self-enrichment, Putin and Republicans make for interesting bedfellows.

This is a war of ideologies: we vs. me. "It takes a village" vs. "every person for themselves" (cheating permitted...nay, encouraged). Anything that supports the notion of a "collective good" must be destroyed. The likes of Barr, Bannon, Pompeo, Mulvaney et al. are especially dangerous--they're white nationalists, isolationists and despise secularization.

They've seen the writing on the wall (social progression, increased secularism, changing demographics, etc.), so their tactics have become increasingly extreme in recent years (intense voter suppression and gerrymandering, full-throated attacks on science and public education, persistent attacks on the "liberal media" to help shift the Overton Window, stealing a Supreme Court seat and packing the judiciary with right wing ideologues, aligning with dictators who share the goal of undermining democracy for personal enrichment, replacing the dog whistle with a bullhorn, and so on). They take comfort, though, in a tyranny of the minority system which, paradoxically, makes major structural reform nearly impossible to bring about for the very reasons why such reform is so desperately needed.

If this current cast of characters is still in power after 1/20/21, the damage wrought may be irreparable.

Trump didn't happen in a vacuum. He's a symptom of a much larger problem (to which the GOP as a whole is contributing). That said, it's crucial that we remove Trump from office as soon as possible, as he's an especially diseased carrier pigeon for the ideologues who are taking advantage of his narcissistic appeal to the tens of millions of racists, sexists and xenophobes.

I wonder if seeing the big picture (or being helped to see it) would dissuade even a fraction of Trump's soft support (the portion that approves of him but not strongly) from continuing to support him. Are 100% of his supporters really okay with the world Republicans are seeking to realize? If so, they'll regret it. Anyway, I doubt that most people truly grasp what's going on and why.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
19. facts can't survive the cult of disinformation
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 03:49 PM
Nov 2019

The cultists will never acknowledge the facts you point out. Thankfully, there are still more outside the cult than in.

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