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dajoki

(10,678 posts)
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 08:48 AM Nov 2019

'It's like nothing we have come across before': UK intelligence officials shaken

‘It’s like nothing we have come across before’: UK intelligence officials shaken by Trump administration’s requests for help with counter-impeachment inquiry
As impeachment inquiries heat up, president’s people are busy pursuing a counter offensive aimed at discrediting Mueller’s findings that Russia interfered in 2016 election
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry-latest-russia-mueller-ukraine-zelensky-a9181641.html
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The attorney general is focusing on the theory, aired on far-right conspiracy sites, and raised by Trump and Giuliani, that Ukraine framed Vladimir Putin over the US election in a complex triple-cross operation by impersonating Russian hackers.

Trump and Barr have also been asking other foreign governments for help in investigating the FBI, CIA and Mueller investigators. The US president has called on the Australian prime minister Scott Morrison for assistance, while the attorney general has been on similar missions to the UK and Italy.

And the information being requested has left allies astonished. One British official with knowledge of Barr’s wish list presented to London commented that “it is like nothing we have come across before, they are basically asking, in quite robust terms, for help in doing a hatchet job on their own intelligence services”.

The UK, in particular, has been viewed by Trump followers, especially far-right conspiracy theorists, as a deep source of woes for the president.

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'It's like nothing we have come across before': UK intelligence officials shaken (Original Post) dajoki Nov 2019 OP
Trump means Treason Kid Berwyn Nov 2019 #1
Destroying America from within. Baitball Blogger Nov 2019 #2
The depths of this monster UpInArms Nov 2019 #3
+1 Hugin Nov 2019 #5
+1 ChiTownDenny Nov 2019 #14
Whhhaaaaat?!?!? Hugin Nov 2019 #4
This is far from politics as usual. I don't think Pence is going to be spared. crickets Nov 2019 #9
President Pelosi would be perhaps our best ever. If only. JudyM Nov 2019 #19
Thanks for posting, dajoki. Hugin Nov 2019 #6
So, he's relying on foreign intelligence agencies... malthaussen Nov 2019 #7
Or Denver PD. Hotler Nov 2019 #17
How do they explain the internet traffic coming from St Petersburg Russia? Maggiemayhem Nov 2019 #8
Is this the stuff that was fed to Devin Nunes that he used to make the memo he rushed to the WH? csziggy Nov 2019 #10
There is NO BOTTOM with trump, none. iluvtennis Nov 2019 #11
Nope shanti Nov 2019 #20
Yes, he can do a lot of damage. We gotta vote his butt out. nt iluvtennis Nov 2019 #22
Thank You for posting...K and R..Another thought, Stuart G Nov 2019 #12
You might be holding Mueller ChiTownDenny Nov 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Stuart G Nov 2019 #13
Zemo redux: "an empire toppled by its enemies can rise again..." 0rganism Nov 2019 #15
The UK can deny all requests. roamer65 Nov 2019 #16
US Attorney William Barr Martin Eden Nov 2019 #21

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
2. Destroying America from within.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 09:08 AM
Nov 2019

Not enough self-delusional religion in the Bible belt to justify support for Trump -- if someone connects the dots for them.

 

ChiTownDenny

(747 posts)
14. +1
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:31 PM
Nov 2019

Yup; the FBI tried to ratfuck Hillary, Trump tried to ratfuck the FBI, and Mueller ratfucked the country. I'm running out of popcorn watching this ratfucking shit show.

Hugin

(33,100 posts)
4. Whhhaaaaat?!?!?
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 09:49 AM
Nov 2019

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:55 AM - Edit history (1)

Wow, this is the first time I've read a synopsis of Pumpkin Spice Pol Pot's working theory on the Mueller investigation articulated... And, it is at once the most ridiculously absurd and monstrously demented piece of pulp fiction I've ever encountered.



"The attorney general is focusing on the theory, aired on far-right conspiracy sites, and raised by Trump and Giuliani, that Ukraine framed Vladimir Putin over the US election in a complex triple-cross operation by impersonating Russian hackers."





It's going to take me a few minutes to process this jaundiced gordian knot-mare... And, regain my composure.



Ahem, Well... I suppose a paraphrasing of the theory would be the Democrats with aid from the chemtrail splattering Deep State, wickedly used latex Putin mask wearing Ukrainian hackers to throw the election to Trump so that they could ultimately impeach King Shit Midas and make Putin look bad. While simultaneously keeping HRC out of the US Presidency. So, in essence the Democrats lose to win?





Seriously? Do I have that correct?

My first impressions are... Why? What's the fricking motive? HRC was quite a bit ahead in the polls and without interference would have probably been elected President. Directly allowing for the implementation of the so-called Deep State's Machiavellian plans. So, why go the extra mile by installing Old Yeller and possibly sitting through several years of his disastrous dictatorship only to make everyone suffer seeing the Tangeranus' puckered mug every day? Really?

If that's really their crazy assed theory... That Trump was only installed to be impeached. I'd be looking closely, very closely, at Pence. In their scenario he's the only one who could possibly benefit.

Oh, well... Barking mad is as barking mad does.

I'll leave crazy conspiracy land with this, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, baby.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
9. This is far from politics as usual. I don't think Pence is going to be spared.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:42 AM
Nov 2019

It once looked like a long shot that both Trump and Pence would be impeached, but with this latest news being so grave that scenario is now up in the air. Pence is likely in the soup up to his neck with the rest of them - at the very least, he knew and said nothing. Leaving him in place would be too dangerous.

Hugin

(33,100 posts)
6. Thanks for posting, dajoki.
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:00 AM
Nov 2019

This is a very important aspect of the insanity everyone needs to be aware of... That this pablum is being promulgated in a probably Quid-Pro-Quo fashion by the White House and DoJ to the heads of office among the US's closest allies.

malthaussen

(17,183 posts)
7. So, he's relying on foreign intelligence agencies...
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:16 AM
Nov 2019

... to investigate his own intelligence agencies. That's like the NYPD hiring the LAPD to investigate them.

And here I thought that's why we had Congressional Oversight committees and inspectors general.

-- Mal

Maggiemayhem

(809 posts)
8. How do they explain the internet traffic coming from St Petersburg Russia?
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 10:29 AM
Nov 2019

Riddle me that RWNJS. Asking foreign countries to investigate American intelligence agencies? That seems so treasonous as to warrant life imprisonment or even execution.

csziggy

(34,133 posts)
10. Is this the stuff that was fed to Devin Nunes that he used to make the memo he rushed to the WH?
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:10 AM
Nov 2019

Someone posted a link the other day about the guy who gave Nunes all sorts of info. I think that guy was connected to the two Guiliani buddies that were arrested while trying to flee the US. I can't find the article just now.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
12. Thank You for posting...K and R..Another thought,
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 11:43 AM
Nov 2019

The top liar in the world, Trump, discrediting an honest person, Mueller. You don't say??

Asking for help from other governments to do this?.....You don't say?
Thinking that they can do this, and get away with this....You don't say?

I thought we had reached a new level of the word ....STUPID!!!!!....way down....

But there is more to go,,,further down we go.......

Apologies to that old game show on TV a while ago...DOWN YOU GO........................................

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0rganism

(23,933 posts)
15. Zemo redux: "an empire toppled by its enemies can rise again..."
Sat Nov 2, 2019, 12:43 PM
Nov 2019

"...but one which crumbles from within? that's dead. forever."

Martin Eden

(12,858 posts)
21. US Attorney William Barr
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:52 AM
Nov 2019

Is a major operative in this bizarre and treasonous scheme.

As fiction it is far fetched, but this is real.

Any remaining doubts about fascism at the highest levels of our government should now be laid to rest.

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