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The Con and his goons are planning to steal the African American votes (Original Post) malaise Nov 2019 OP
explain evertonfc Nov 2019 #1
he's telling everyone in plain sight just like he malaise Nov 2019 #2
Telling everyone what? fleur-de-lisa Nov 2019 #3
How African Americans are with him malaise Nov 2019 #4
He's been saying that pretty much the whole time nt coti Nov 2019 #6
African Americans are some of the best bullshit sniffers that I have ever met. Blue_true Nov 2019 #18
I don't think anyone believes him Generic Other Nov 2019 #5
LOL malaise Nov 2019 #7
Trump's percentages among Black folks will be about the same this time around. It's a matter of... Garrett78 Nov 2019 #8
This! peggysue2 Nov 2019 #11
Stacey Abrams' Fair Fight ... Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #16
we need to take his tells seriously 0rganism Nov 2019 #9
Bingo malaise Nov 2019 #13
I don't see that happening. Flaleftist Nov 2019 #10
Yes. We must pay attention. Solomon Nov 2019 #12
Precisely malaise Nov 2019 #15
voter suppression and rigged electronics Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #14
"a lethal assault on democracy" Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #17
Great post malaise Nov 2019 #19
they're refining the tactics year after year Hermit-The-Prog Nov 2019 #20

malaise

(268,844 posts)
2. he's telling everyone in plain sight just like he
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 02:09 PM
Nov 2019

did with the leaked emails - they gave it a test run last year but too many people turned out


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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
18. African Americans are some of the best bullshit sniffers that I have ever met.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:55 PM
Nov 2019

He and his goons won't get far. Yeah, they may get a Kanye or a bible thumper here and there, but I am confident that the AA that I deal with are all over Trump's shit.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
5. I don't think anyone believes him
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 05:19 PM
Nov 2019

Except that ONE guy.







HAHAHA He even appeared here:


NET GAIN: ONE VOTE

AND HERE'S 2 MORE VOTES:


1+2= 3 FREAKING VOTES. And Ben Carson (if he votes).

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
8. Trump's percentages among Black folks will be about the same this time around. It's a matter of...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 05:24 PM
Nov 2019

...combating voter suppression efforts and boosting turnout.

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
11. This!
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:02 PM
Nov 2019

It's all about combatting voter suppression efforts, the sort of thing we saw in the midterm election in Georgia against Stacey Abrams or the massive screwups in the Governor's race in Florida.

To be forewarned is to be forearmed. Dems have to take this seriously.

And then there's propaganda. Although I haven't a clue how you convince people, those of color or not, that you've done great things for them. This relies on 'don't trust what you see or hear' tactics, something Trump has actually said at his rallies. Maybe that works on the cultists but I don't see it working on the vast majority of our Democratic electorate but whatever lies are spread? They need to be fully exposed and stomped on. The other dangerous element are the independent runs, something the GOP will no doubt cultivate to split the vote for a small advantage, a Jill Stein 2.0 strategy.

In the end, it will come down to the tried and true: GOTV is massive numbers in the states that count the most, the EC vote. We learned the hard way in 2016. We can't afford a repeat.

The other thing that worries me is the money. Trump already has something on the order of a $300 million war chest. We have no idea where that money is coming from but it's a huge advantage. I read somewhere that this election will require $1 billion to be competitive with the GOP and Trump's bulldozer endeavor. Mind-blowing!

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
16. Stacey Abrams' Fair Fight ...
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:35 PM
Nov 2019
The 2020 election will carry historic consequences. But foreign interference and sophisticated voter suppression threatens our ability to freely elect our leaders. If we start early and work together, we will ensure that every American voter’s voice is heard and that Democrats up and down the ballot win.

Fair Fight 2020 is building voter protection teams with Democratic state parties or local allies across the country to protect the right to vote—and we’re starting now. Sign up today to ensure that 2020 is a Fair Fight.

https://fairfight.com/fair-fight-2020/

0rganism

(23,933 posts)
9. we need to take his tells seriously
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 05:26 PM
Nov 2019

he's laying the groundwork right now for how he and his media buddies can explain extremely surprising election results to the public.
"i told you all i was doing the best among blacks/latinos/LGBT/women/youth/whoever, but you laughed at me because you're idiots who believe the fake news"

the Trump presidency is a direct attack on truth itself. it's not funny.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
10. I don't see that happening.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 05:32 PM
Nov 2019

He may try to convince more black voters to vote for him. The ones I know who I discuss politics with despise him. Their hatred for him is very strong.

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
12. Yes. We must pay attention.
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:17 PM
Nov 2019

It's not about getting blacks to vote for him. It's about telling the lie when they flip the switches that blacks voted for him because "the lowest black unemployment in history, ... blah,blah blah.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
17. "a lethal assault on democracy"
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:52 PM
Nov 2019

The recent spate of whites calling 911 on African Americans for barbecuing while black, waiting in Starbucks while black, sleeping at Yale while black ad nauseum has led to a much-needed discussion about the policing of public spaces.

Yet, there’s another important public space where blackness has been policed and we have been far too silent about it: the voting booth. And the implications are just as far-reaching and devastating, and, despite Chief Justice John Roberts’ claim, not some relic of a bygone past.

[ ... ]

The US Civil Rights Commission “concluded that, of the 179,855 ballots invalidated by Florida officials, 53% were cast by black voters. In Florida,” the commission’s report continued, “a black citizen was 10 times as likely to have a vote rejected as a white voter.”

[ ... ]

Pleased with what they had accomplished, North Carolina Republicans “celebrated” mowing down black access to the voting booth.

[ ... ]

In Indiana, once it became clear that black people could determine the outcome of an election, like when Barack Obama carried the state in 2008, the Republicans mobilized to cut off African Americans’ access to the polls. [ ... ] Not surprisingly, by design, in the 2016 election, early voting in the county plummeted by 26%.

[ ... ]

Georgia is also adept at policing black citizens who dare to vote. In 2010, when African Americans in Brooks county organized a massive voter turnout drive and elected the first majority-black school board in its history, the secretary of state, Brian Kemp, had a dozen African American activists and school board members arrested and, over the course of a long grueling four-year period, dragged through the courts. Although, in the end, there were zero convictions for voter fraud, there was a chilling effect as lives were ruined, jobs lost, and a hard lesson on the costs of voting made abundantly clear.

[ ... ]

In 2016, pummeled by voter suppression in more than 30 states, the black voter turnout plummeted by 7%. For the GOP, that was an effective kill rate. For America, it was a lethal assault on democracy.


-- Voting while black: the racial injustice that harms our democracy, Carol Anderson, The Guardian


(Lots of inline links in the article to back up the claims of the author)

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,309 posts)
20. they're refining the tactics year after year
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 07:04 PM
Nov 2019

They don't have to get away with all of it, just enough in each election to maintain power in spite of the will of the people. It's anti-democracy from the ground up.

That 7% suppression rate in 2016 was a huge swing. Winning by cheating, and not suffering consequences, encourages more cheating.

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