Oh Lordy! There are tapes!

[DetlefK]

Link to tweet

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4827297/user-clip-mulvaney-press-conference

Link to tweet

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4827294/user-clip-trump-refers-tape




If the Democrats subpoena the tape for the impeachment-inquiry, what excuses will the Republicans make why they cannot produce a tape that would totally exonerate Trump?

[2naSalit]

1. ...

[DENVERPOPS]

28. Mulvaney

Mulvaney's insurance policy in case Trump and Republicans turn on him............
He is just letting them know to not screw with him............

[Maraya1969]

43. It sounded like either that or maybe he just said it without thinking. But as I write this I

that there should be a tape, as there should be a tape of every president's conversation with a foreign leader.

[dlk]

2. Tapes can be edited

[FreeState]

4. Don't they have a way of knowing?

I was an independent contractor for a company that made software that tracked digital evidence for the police - this way it could not be tampered with and their was a chain to show in court. I assumed this was true of government meetings?

[getagrip_already]

7. remember the 18 minute gap in the nixon tapes?

Remember who we are talking about.

[ashredux]

8. Yes....and the "gap" got him out of office

[hadEnuf]

17. Nixon would walk away from that laughing in this day and age.

But people actually demanded some integrity in the country's servants at one time.

[Roy Rolling]

18. No way to doctor the conversation

There is no way to hide an edit in 2019. Much less clowns who work in Trump media, the worst professionals in the world.

[H2O Man]

19. +1

[getagrip_already]

38. He has the world's best in his agencies....

Let's not forget certain agencies were born to live and breathe fake kompromat. And he has three of the largest countries agencies at his disposal.

He has gotten every agency to lie for him. Don't think he can't get the fbi/cia/kgb to do his dirty work.

[LiberalFighter]

53. Sure there is.

He will send tape to Putin who will then have actors play the parts with Russian accents for a new recording.

[iluvtennis]

12. + 1

[pangaia]

14. that was back when there was actually 'tape.'

of course they still call it tape...

Of course knowing the intelligent quotient of republicans, it could very well have been recorded on a Wollensack...

YA KNOW, ONE OF THESE--
https://www.etsy.com/listing/741725879/1960s-wollensak-vacuum-tube-stereo-reel?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-electronics_and_accessories-audio-stereos_and_home_audio&utm_custom1=01037563-4b8e-4510-ad68-577c04920ce6&utm_content=go_1843970779_69216057505_346429258280_aud-459688891835:pla-355000298316_c__741725879&gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fntBRCGARIsAGjFq5EJTaD5vSzywWOvyLgo9QiUeEwlMNsWAv-eeP4Zu-T6n3br1k4qkcMaAuWdEALw_wcB

[Celerity]

25. Rump is a Wollensack

[pangaia]

33. Winner...

[dlk]

13. This is why the calls have been transcribed since the mid-1970's

Also, there is more than one transcriber. It’s likely any tape released would be heavily edited beforehand.

[Eugene]

3. Mr. Mulvaney, I am truly impressed! Your Trump Gang has achieved a level of arrogance and stupidity

that I believed was beyond even your capabilities.

[TreasonousBastard]

5. How many minutes are missing?

[mountain grammy]

6. Of course there are tapes.

[hay rick]

9. Paging Rosemary Woods.

[Progressive2020]

10. Trump's Gang

They are a bunch of semi-competent criminals. It would be funny if it weren't so serious and dangerous. Trump is a clown (albeit a dangerous clown) who attracts like-minded clowns. They are criminally incompetent. It is amazing that the government functions at all with criminal idiots like this at the top.

[DENVERPOPS]

46. A trait of all major criminals

is they think they are superior and are so smart they will never be caught......

[Zoonart]

52. THIS!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

11. Fake tape or authentic?

Never trust the tRump White House for truth.........

[Laura PourMeADrink]

15. Video link

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4827294/user-clip-trump-refers-tape

[Evolve Dammit]

16. The "secret" server needs to be downloaded for All calls with despots. Parscale: looking at you.

Subpoena his ass.

[liberal N proud]

20. Wow!

Nail just about to meet hamar

[brush]

21. Well, well, well. Game over whether they produce the tape or not.

If not everyone will know they are hiding damning evidence. It they do cough it up the gaps in the released non-transcript will incriminate the imposter pres.

[brush]

22. Mulvaney has to be out now, 2 wks ago he admitted quid pro quo and now...

he's admitted there is tape of the phone call.

Serves the orange asshole right. He hires people like himself—incompetents.

[George II]

23. And now trump is channeling the ghost of Rose Mary Woods:

[patphil]

24. I know this is nitpicking, but there aren't any tapes anymore.

Any recording is purely electronic...a data file on a server.
And it stands to reason that all phone calls are recorded for reference purposes.
I am sure that any leader of a foreign government is recording the call for that person's end.
We would need to do the same to insure there is no issue with the other side making claims about the content of the call.
It's like cell phone calls. All of them are recorded by the service provider, and are often subpoenaed in criminal cases.

Patrick Phillips

[BootinUp]

26. Distraction, land of confusion.

[California_Republic]

27. Wouldn't you think Ukraine recorded the call

[Eyeball_Kid]

30. Of course they did. But they have to stay on Trumpy's good side. Javelins, you know. n/t

[Igel]

34. Yes.

But a House subpoena wouldn't work.

And then there's the "we are requiring that a foreign government provide evidence against an opponent in the 2020 election" talking anti-point.

[Brother Buzz]

29. What excuse?

Rudy Giuliani, butt dialing again, accidentally reset the password to the secure server, and that sucker is "double super-secret background" secure.

[lagomorph777]

48. Mar A Loogey

Merde A Gogo

Lard A Googoo

Wired For Audio

[yuiyoshida]

32. I have a feeling tapes may not help if the Senate does nothing

Republicans could end up being all Traitors, and allowing this President to govern despite the tapes, after all if he can make a tape about grabbing women by the genitals, and still won an election, what hope is there for the impeachment?

[Roland99]

35. What are the odds of ever hearing it, tho?

[Igel]

36. "He misspoke."

And, really, given the sheer propensity this man has for "misspeaking" and saying things that sound good but aren't true, who'd be crazy enough to argue, "But if he said it, it must be true."

[Demovictory9]

37. let's hear this "perfect" call

[Raftergirl]

39. This is

Stupid Watergate.

[NewJeffCT]

42. They may be stupid

but, Nixon did not have a veritable army of RW media propagandists on his side

[DeminPennswoods]

40. IIRC, Vindman testified there was no recording, just

the notes all the staffers who listened to the call took.

[spanone]

41. republicans won't have any excuse for not delivering the tapes, they will just ignore subpoenas

[Nitram]

44. Of course there's a tape. Important agreements are made during such phone calls.

A transcript is then made from the tape. Much too difficult in realtime with translation, etc.

[bigbrother05]

45. They need to subpoena the classified server, bet money there's lots more

They were pretty quick to put that call on the server, almost like it was a routine action for damage control.

No way a media "star" leaves anything unrecorded.

[scipan]

47. it was cutting off for me just before he said "tape"

so I found another clip:

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4823159/user-clip-mulvaney-ukraine-call-tape-transcript

[crickets]

49. Sure there's a tape

Mick Mulvaney confessed to more than their Quid pro Quos -- He let it slip that There Are Tapes

“Let me ask you this — if we wanted to cover this up, would we have called the Department of Justice almost immediately and have them look at the transcript of the tape?” Mulvaney asked rhetorically on Thursday. “Which we did, by the way.”

Link to tweet

Mulvaney admitted to having a tape of the call at his press conference.... [video]

Okay, let's say it was a slip of the tongue on Mulvaney's part. There's still the matter of voice translation protocols.

Trump's July 25 Phone Call With Zelensky May Have Been Taped

Yes, maybe there is a Trump White House taping system of calls, but the more likely scenario is that there is, or was before being deleted, a full artificial intelligence digital transcript of the July 25 Zelensky call. This could also be the case for innumerable other official Trump calls with foreign leaders that have been hidden away on the classified server, including calls with Putin.

If Trump tapes of official phone calls do not exist, artificial intelligence voice recognition software now has 95% and above accuracy rates.

That means, that taping system or not, a digital transcript of the July 25 call exists, or existed, and would provide a fuller knowledge of what Trump said to Zelensky, as well as open up the floodgates for full transcripts of Trump talking with other foreign leaders.

There is a tape or at the very least a digital version of the call, if it has not yet been destroyed. No need to rely on a human generated transcript at all.

[NastyRiffraff]

50. So the stable genius blurted out that there's a tape.

Republicans will say it was "strategic." The rest of us know it was his usual stupidity.

[SterlingPound]

51. We spend billions a each and every year in defence

So there better be damn tapes

of everything the POTUS says
especially after the first hint of his disloyalty to the
USA.
(and that is about as Nationalistic as I get)

[LudwigPastorius]

54. what excuses will the Republicans make why they cannot produce a tape that would exonerate...

They'll use the same excuse they've been using to dodge other subpoenas, executive privilege.

If a dispute over the production of the tape goes to the Supreme Court, Trump's lawyers will argue that making the tape public would have a chilling effect on the ability of Trump and future presidents to conduct one on one diplomacy with the leaders of other countries. (which in Trump's case is a damn good thing) It's an argument similar to the concept of "deliberative process privilege".

In actuality, Trump and his minions are simply trying to run out the clock, hoping that they can delay any court case and order to comply until after the election.