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Demovictory9

(32,421 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:14 AM Nov 2019

"Conservative estimates say Trump owes more than a billion dollars in unpaid taxes."




Replying to
@ScenarioLENS
Assumptions:

From 2008–2016 Trump’s net worth increased from $2B to $4B.

Billionaires pay 23% + 9% to NY for income tax.

$250M per year x 32% = $80M x 8 years = $640M.

Trump boasts he paid nothing.

IRS penalties can double the amount owed — and worse for offshore accounts.
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"Conservative estimates say Trump owes more than a billion dollars in unpaid taxes." (Original Post) Demovictory9 Nov 2019 OP
Net worth can increase without any current taxable income unblock Nov 2019 #1
good lord. this is pure simple minded dreck. stopdiggin Nov 2019 #2
THIS Duppers Nov 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #3
Has he even made that much money? Duppers Nov 2019 #4
I'm just hoping the penalties for his UNPAID TAXES bluestarone Nov 2019 #6
The story says Trump is asking for a review by the full DC Circuit gratuitous Nov 2019 #7
Taxes don't work that way. whopis01 Nov 2019 #8
If you sell that stock, you owe taxes then FiveGoodMen Nov 2019 #10
Of course. However the op wasn't about income or capital gains whopis01 Nov 2019 #11
Good lord, a little research would help. Codeine Nov 2019 #9

unblock

(52,116 posts)
1. Net worth can increase without any current taxable income
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:56 AM
Nov 2019

Capital gains, such as from the value of stock or real estate going up, aren't taxable until sold.

And that's without even getting into things like business expenses and depreciation.

stopdiggin

(11,242 posts)
2. good lord. this is pure simple minded dreck.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 02:05 AM
Nov 2019

"Conservative Estimates" are apparently those plucked straight out of thin air.

the linked NYTimes article makes absolutely no such claims .. either in terms of dollar amounts .. or in fact, of taxes in arrears.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. The story says Trump is asking for a review by the full DC Circuit
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 01:09 PM
Nov 2019

As I recall, the Chief Judge of the DC Circuit is the Honorable Merrick Garland. Being the thoroughgoing professional he is, I suspect Judge Garland will simply issue a pro forma affirmation of the panel's judgment. But the temptation to write a full opinion . . .

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
8. Taxes don't work that way.
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 04:38 PM
Nov 2019

If I buy $100k work of stock and it doubles in value, my net worth has increased by $100k. But I owe nothing in taxes.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
10. If you sell that stock, you owe taxes then
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 05:32 PM
Nov 2019

Capital Gains taxes which are lower than paying taxes on the money you actually work for, but still.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
11. Of course. However the op wasn't about income or capital gains
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 10:37 PM
Nov 2019

It was about net worth. An increase in net worth does not trigger a tax consequence. Income and capital gains do.

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