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ffr

(22,665 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:38 PM Nov 2019

'2nd Circuit Court Appeals unanimously rules that the prez is not immune from investigative steps'

Trump tax returns must go to grand jury, appeals court rules

A federal appeals court has ruled that President Donald Trump’s tax returns must be turned over to a local grand jury in Manhattan — a legal blow for the president's attempts to stymie a broad array of investigations.

A three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit Court Appeals unanimously ruled that the president is not immune from investigative steps taken by state prosecutors, such as a grand jury subpoena. Trump now plans to go to the Supreme Court.
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“The President has not persuasively explained why, if executive privilege did not preclude enforcement of the subpoena issued in Nixon, the Mazars subpoena must be enjoined despite seeking no privileged information and bearing no relation to the President’s performance of his official functions,” Katzmann wrote.

“We are not faced, in this case, with the President’s arrest or imprisonment, or with an order compelling him to attend court at a particular time or place, or, indeed, with an order that compels the President himself to do anything," the judge added. "The subpoena at issue is directed not to the President, but to his accountants; compliance does not require the President to do anything at all." - Politico


Stick that feather in your cap SCOTUS & pOTUS!
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dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
1. I keep seeing where SCOTUS may not hear the case. Therefore
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:39 PM
Nov 2019

the second appeals decision would stand.

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
2. Then regardless of what the president does anyway, why aren't the returns already in their hands?
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:43 PM
Nov 2019

By what right is Mazars (the accountants) are holding off providing the returns? None from what I see, regardless of whether the so called president appeals or not.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
3. They are holding off because Trump was granted an appeal with a temporary stay of Mazar releasing
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 07:54 PM
Nov 2019

the documents.

SWBTATTReg

(22,059 posts)
4. Thanks for the notice of the 'stay' action, until a follow up whether the higher court will ...
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:09 PM
Nov 2019

review. I saw it in the follow up when I got your follow up / response to me...

I suspect that the higher court won't review, thus letting the lower court's ruling stand, and the tax returns must be provided by the accounting firm.

I just wonder why the so called president is claiming Executive authority on all 8 years worth of returns? Not every year worth's of returns were not done while the president is president, so why is he claiming executive authority on all 8 years (those returns done when he wasn't president)?

It seems like to me he's claiming executive authority/action on things that should not be included, and thus perhaps if the highest court intervenes, they may rule that part of the returns won't be allowed to go out of the accounting firm's hands (and the pertinent years will)? Just an uneducated guess here...

Thanks again.

fierywoman

(7,668 posts)
5. It's because very soon he will be feeding the cult the koolaid that he was president since he
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:12 PM
Nov 2019

left the womb -- he's learning from the N Korean propaganda.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
7. He is claiming this because he has idiotic lawyers that have no other plausible reason, and they
Tue Nov 5, 2019, 08:42 PM
Nov 2019

have probably already told him he will not prevail. This opinion was written so narrowly, that I really don't think the SC will even hear it, but you never know.

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