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How far will evangelicals fall...? (Original Post) pbmus Nov 2019 OP
All the way. JHB Nov 2019 #1
They haven't already???? Sherman A1 Nov 2019 #2
Depends on the individual evangelical, doesn't it? Hortensis Nov 2019 #11
I am beginning to think they are mostly all grifters. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #3
I've thought this for decades. Liars, gaslighters, manipulators NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #5
But the people that send them money, some must believe. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #7
yes, that's the sad part. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #13
I always thought like the 700 club was somewhat real. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #15
I've made the same journey. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #17
Me too. dewsgirl Nov 2019 #19
Religion and politics use each other to gain power and wealth. keithbvadu2 Nov 2019 #22
Organized religions have always been led by con men... polichick Nov 2019 #4
+1 get the red out Nov 2019 #8
OMFG lpbk2713 Nov 2019 #6
I'm thinking Paradise Lost. 11 Bravo Nov 2019 #9
I think the question you mean to ask is... skypilot Nov 2019 #10
Who knows? Aristus Nov 2019 #12
If Pastor Hank is hallucinating, he should see a doctor. Vinca Nov 2019 #14
How does he know it was God? defacto7 Nov 2019 #16
They fell off the deep end years ago. Initech Nov 2019 #18
To the Gates of Hell where they are clamoring to return home from whence they came. delisen Nov 2019 #20
"How far will evangelicals fall...?" Talitha Nov 2019 #21
There is a reason non religious now outnumber evangelicals. GulfCoast66 Nov 2019 #23

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
11. Depends on the individual evangelical, doesn't it?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:11 PM
Nov 2019

Just for one big instance, there are LOTS of black evangelicals. Smearing them with all the rest would fit the definition of bigot of a lot of people here. Accidentally of course.

Then there are other groups. Like evangelical Christian Democrats for just one who may also be a minority among evangelicals but really don't deserve bigoted smearing with the whole.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
3. I am beginning to think they are mostly all grifters.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 05:40 PM
Nov 2019

They understand they are wrong, they just don't care.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
5. I've thought this for decades. Liars, gaslighters, manipulators
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 05:44 PM
Nov 2019

for personal profit.

Part of Deplorable Swamp

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
7. But the people that send them money, some must believe.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 05:47 PM
Nov 2019

I would think. The last 4 years have turned me even further from religion then I already was.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
15. I always thought like the 700 club was somewhat real.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:19 PM
Nov 2019

Boy was I ever wrong. I have learned more in the last 4 years than I ever learned in the previous 38 yrs since I was born. I had no clue there was so much hate, and so many people that are only out for themselves.😳

NRaleighLiberal

(60,006 posts)
17. I've made the same journey.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:26 PM
Nov 2019

63 years old, pretty much agnostic for the last 15-20. Use of organized religion as a weapon and hypocrisy *cured" me!

polichick

(37,152 posts)
4. Organized religions have always been led by con men...
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 05:43 PM
Nov 2019

and always been supported by fearful, brainwashed people.

The good news is these extremes are helping some people see the con.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
16. How does he know it was God?
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:23 PM
Nov 2019

Oh yes, I know, the gift of discernment. I have the gift of knowing in fact that he actually has the gift of self delusion.

Initech

(100,041 posts)
18. They fell off the deep end years ago.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 06:29 PM
Nov 2019

They're circling the bottom of the Marianus Trench at this point.

Talitha

(6,563 posts)
21. "How far will evangelicals fall...?"
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 09:54 PM
Nov 2019

About as far as any cult member can, I guess.
Hopefully some of them will be able to snap out of it.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. There is a reason non religious now outnumber evangelicals.
Wed Nov 6, 2019, 10:24 PM
Nov 2019

For the first time ever.

Their kind of batshit crazy beliefs don’t hold up in an educated, multicultural world which more and more Americans live in.

I’m not just making a supposition but stating personal experience.

I grew up in the middle sized city South as an evangelical. Moved to Central Florida, met different people, travel internationally and most importantly was introduced to the writings of Hume. Perhaps the greatest English speaking philosopher ever. Now I’m a freethinker and rationalist.

Once I realized that the beliefs I came up with are followed by a tiny group of Christians worldwide I started thinking.

I have no doubt had I been raised in a more mainline Christian tradition where it was easy to believe in science and have faith I might still go to church and believe. But my evangelical upbringing made me examine my beliefs to their root and I came the conclusion it was all bullshit. Because to believe the world is 6000 years old, that the entire earth flooded 4000 years ago and some dude built a boat to save all the animals and so on and so forth...

You have to be able to deny reality.

So their is no depth to the level these people will sink to uphold their narrative of the world.

Our best hope is they will once again disengage from the political world and go back to their shrinking world of delusion. But they are our biggest threat. People who believe they have god in the camp are capable of anything.





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