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real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:46 AM Nov 2019

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY: Another White House official refuses to testify!

Impeachment inquiry

The House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney to appear this morning as part of the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, an official says. But a White House official said he will not show up. In a stunning twist last month, Mulvaney confirmed that Trump froze nearly $400 million in security aid to Ukraine partially to pressure the country into investigating Democrats -- then denied he said it hours later. Meanwhile, a lawyer for the whistleblower whose complaint triggered the impeachment inquiry sent a letter to the White House warning the President to "cease and desist" attacking his client. Trump has repeatedly demanded that the whistleblower be publicly identified, saying he deserves to "meet his accuser." Listen to more explosive details here.

House impeachment inquiry requests White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney testify
By Jeremy Herb, CNN

(CNN) - House impeachment investigators have requested acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney testify on Capitol Hill on Friday, ratcheting up their investigation to target the President's top aide.

The House Intelligence, Foreign Affairs and Oversight committees sent Mulvaney a letter Tuesday requesting he appear for a closed-door deposition as part of the Democrats' impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump and Ukraine.
"We believe that you possess substantial first-hand knowledge and information relevant to the House's impeachment inquiry," the Democratic chairs wrote.

It appears unlikely that Mulvaney will comply with the request.

So far this week, six Trump administration officials have defied requests for their testimony, and several more are expected to do the same later this week, including Energy Secretary Rick Perry and acting Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05/politics/mick-mulvaney-requested-to-testify/index.html?utm_source=CNN+Five+Things&utm_campaign=0714375cd4-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2019_11_07_11_20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6da287d761-0714375cd4-104928233


What would happen if you ignored a subpoena?
Why is it a House request, instead of a subpoena?
Do Democrats in the House of Representatives want another four years of Trump destroying the US Constitution?
Did ANY reader write the representative, from their district, about these questions and other important matters to their state?
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samnsara

(17,615 posts)
1. none of these people can defend trump and dont want to lie to congress...
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:50 AM
Nov 2019

....trump thinks this is a win for him?

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
3. That's true! But,
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019

Why do you think our Democratic representatives are sending requests, or is the CNN news article incorrect?

I intent to write my representative and Speaker Pelosi and ask them about this important matter!

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
2. This was a setup
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:12 AM
Nov 2019

They weren't expecting him to show up. They made the request knowing he would turn them down, so they can add that to the obstruction charge. No need for a subpoena or a lot of drama trying to get compliance.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. Definitely.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:46 AM
Nov 2019

Several of the witnesses called for this week were definite no-shows, including Mulvaney and John Eisenberg, and surely they knew this going forward.

real Cannabis calm

(1,124 posts)
6. You are probably correct. But, how can he be charged with obstruction...
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:45 AM
Nov 2019

without a subpoena? When will our representatives begin issuing obstruction of justice charges. As a voter, who always supports Democrats - in many ways - I believe that I deserve some answers.
As for my personal agenda, which my online name makes obvious, I also plan to write my Democratic governor to present good reasons marijuana should be legalized - as recreational, instead of medical - in New Mexico. No drama required, but exercising my rights to obtain answers from people that I supported and voted for is important to me.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
8. They're not trying to charge him. Trump's the target.
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:40 PM
Nov 2019

Besides, the House can't charge anyone with a crime. And at this stage, that's not the point. They're trying to impeach Trump. One or more of the articles of impeachment will likely be Obstruction of Justice and Obstruction of Congress. Each refusal to appear is further evidence of that obstruction.

As for answers, I'm not sure why you think you aren't getting any. The Democrats have explained over and over and over exactly what they're doing a d why they're doing it. What else are you expecting them to say that would satisfy you?

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
5. they have NO reason to comply as NO accountability is in place
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:47 AM
Nov 2019

not the way I would go about trying to take down a king

triron

(21,994 posts)
7. You are so right. Many here decry the use of 'inherent contempt'. Why?
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

Why show up when there are no consequences for you. (Maybe Trump but not you).

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. How do you see Inherent Contempt playing out to ensure accountability and
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 12:52 PM
Nov 2019

get us closer to impeachment?

Please walk us through how the process will do this and show your work.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
12. In other words, you can't explain how it would work
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:42 PM
Nov 2019

And, no, saying it was used more than 90 years ago under entirely different circumstances doesn't explain how it would be effective in this particular instance.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
10. A critical component of taking down a king is knowing which tools to use most effectively
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:13 PM
Nov 2019

and how not to get distracted trying to do things that won't get them to where they're trying to go.

Chasing around after the king's minions trying to get them to provide information that they already have, can get elsewhere or don't really need in order to accomplish the task only wastes time and energy and is just what the king wants them to do. He wants and needs them flying around in 37 different directions, hopping in and out of rabbit holes, scampering after witnesses who, even if caught, won't give them useful information.

The House committees are being very smart and strategic. They're systematically gathering the evidence they need and not allowing themselves to get distracted by engaging in actions that some people might find entertaining but, in reality would be futile and merely create a circus that would completely undermine what they're trying to do.

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