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MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:42 AM Nov 2019

Donald J. Trump Is So Stupid, He Thinks

the whistleblower should be "SUED for Treason." He said exactly that at his most recent chopper presser.

"SUED for Treason." He said that. A man that stupid is President of the United States.

Surely we can correct that in 2020, right, if not before?

I mean...really...

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Donald J. Trump Is So Stupid, He Thinks (Original Post) MineralMan Nov 2019 OP
As they say, "Stupid is stupid is stupid, is still very stupid. Stuart G Nov 2019 #1
That's a big word in his vocabulary... TheCowsCameHome Nov 2019 #2
Dear Donald Trump: catbyte Nov 2019 #3
LOVE this one! calimary Nov 2019 #4
Good one! Different Drummer Nov 2019 #42
"SUED for Treason." Luckily, that's not a thing. dchill Nov 2019 #5
He's like one of those magnetic poetry kits - The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #6
Love that analogy. n/t Collimator Nov 2019 #26
I have often thought the same thing 2naSalit Nov 2019 #53
Anything that opposes him equates to treason. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #7
The Constitution defines treason in Article 3, Section 3 Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2019 #54
Of course. TwilightZone Nov 2019 #55
He probably meant "prosecuted for treason" vlyons Nov 2019 #8
He doesn't know any better pandr32 Nov 2019 #9
He I'm 72, and I sometimes forget a word or name that I should know vlyons Nov 2019 #28
All that may be true pandr32 Nov 2019 #46
Dementia or just sheer stupidity? MineralMan Nov 2019 #13
Both given that he has been ignorant all his life malaise Nov 2019 #49
Exactly right. There is no way right now to oust a rogue or... brush Nov 2019 #23
No. He is clever. It is propaganda. Promotes story he is 'innocent'. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #10
Lindsey said he was too stupid to do extortion. paleotn Nov 2019 #11
Intellect and Republican to the best of my knowledge NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #12
Weapons-grade stoopidity is a virtue among GOPhers/conservanuts. lastlib Nov 2019 #31
Weapons Grade Stupidity.... gonna steal that one. NoMoreRepugs Nov 2019 #34
helpee-selfee! lastlib Nov 2019 #36
Traitor Tot is the poster boy for the Dunning-Kruger Effect OMGWTF Nov 2019 #14
That's certainly true enough. MineralMan Nov 2019 #15
I'm sure over the years Trump has "sued hundreds if not thousands" of people that his lawyers.... usaf-vet Nov 2019 #16
Your thread title Disaffected Nov 2019 #17
I didn't even think about that. You're right. MineralMan Nov 2019 #18
Well, he is a stable genius Chicagogrl1 Nov 2019 #19
That presser was probably the most unhinged I've seen from him. Chakaconcarne Nov 2019 #20
He seems to be deteriorating on a steady basis. MineralMan Nov 2019 #22
The crazy is so deep with that one.. he has no idea how government... works for the people Peacetrain Nov 2019 #21
He has ZERO interest in government working for people--- lastlib Nov 2019 #32
He may not be the brightest or most competent, but in my view he's not as stupid as KPN Nov 2019 #24
He's not as stupid as you think. Martin Eden Nov 2019 #25
Bill Maher recently said something I thought poignant LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #38
+1 Martin Eden Nov 2019 #39
And I think to a large part Democratic politicians don't understand that disconnect. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #41
"And get it into a one line catch phrase" Martin Eden Nov 2019 #50
+1000 LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #52
everything you say may be true, but ... stopdiggin Nov 2019 #45
I hope you are right stopdiggin LiberalLovinLug Nov 2019 #47
well, you do have the HLMencken thought stopdiggin Nov 2019 #48
I think your thoughts are pretty realistic. KPN Nov 2019 #57
HE Surely is STUPID! BUT bluestarone Nov 2019 #27
I thought this was going to be a "Yo Momma" thread Generic Other Nov 2019 #29
Trump appeals to the lower elements in the country with stupid terms like that, hadEnuf Nov 2019 #30
Trump thinks that suing people PatSeg Nov 2019 #33
The only things more stupid are the idiots who wnylib Nov 2019 #35
Exactly what the POS is counting on. KPN Nov 2019 #58
That's everyone's answer for everything anymore: SUE YOU!! Initech Nov 2019 #37
Whistle Blower is a patriot, and is not working for a foreign power that we are at war with. Wrong. Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #40
I share your bafflement as to his cluelessness, MM. yonder Nov 2019 #43
he just tweeted "presidential harassment" again Demovictory9 Nov 2019 #44
Being sued, and suing is all he knows. Give him a break. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #51
But Above all True Blue American Nov 2019 #59
🙄... New Leaf Nov 2019 #56

TheCowsCameHome

(40,167 posts)
2. That's a big word in his vocabulary...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:44 AM
Nov 2019

for a variety of reasons...plus anything over one syllable is a challenge for him, anyway.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
6. He's like one of those magnetic poetry kits -
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 11:54 AM
Nov 2019

those collections of words on little magnets that you can stick to a metal surface like a refrigerator door and create poems. He takes random words from the magnetic poetry kit in his brain (more likely his colon) and just says them, whether or not they make any sense.

2naSalit

(86,334 posts)
53. I have often thought the same thing
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 12:22 AM
Nov 2019

about how he formulates his speech. It's kind of the same thing as caribou barbie back in the bad old days.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
54. The Constitution defines treason in Article 3, Section 3
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:26 AM
Nov 2019
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.


A major reason that the framers of the Constitution were explicit in their definition of treason stemmed from an incident during the reign of Henry VIII of England. One of Henry's political enemies, Lord Montague, was arrested and told the charge was treason. He said, "I have committed no treason." The arresting officer replied, "Treason is what the king says it is." The framers knew their history, and did not want treason to be whatever some governmental official said it was.

Trump, of course, knows neither history nor what the Constitution says.

TwilightZone

(25,428 posts)
55. Of course.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 10:43 AM
Nov 2019

Treason is so narrowly defined that the Rosenbergs didn't even qualify. If they don't, Trump's opponents certainly don't (or Trump, for that matter).

For one, we're not at war with anyone, certainly not Russian or Ukraine. Cold wars don't count, as the Rosenbergs case showed.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
8. He probably meant "prosecuted for treason"
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:07 PM
Nov 2019

but his brain dementia couldn't find the word, "prosecuted." So he said "sued" instead. We need to redo the 25th amendmentment, so we can dump unfit, incapacitated people. When the cabinet and the VP are all a bunch of sycophants, the current 25th amendment is worthless. I say every POTUS needs an annual med checkup by a panel of 3 Drs. Exam to include a brain scan, and report publicly released.

pandr32

(11,562 posts)
9. He doesn't know any better
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:24 PM
Nov 2019

He said exactly what his brain came up with. Lots of people have expressed that Dum-Dum tRump has a steadfast unwillingness to learn anything new. He already thinks he knows everything he needs to know and trusts his own instincts and interpretations. The entire presidency has been dumbed down thanks to him.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. He I'm 72, and I sometimes forget a word or name that I should know
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

I'm pretty smart and test with a high IQ, have a college degree, am well read, etc etc. Believe me, when you get to be a Sr citizen, the body just starts not working so great, as when you were 30-something. I'm not making excuses for the fact that he is still a stupid, arrogant, degenerate asshole. But of all the things to criticize him for, getting words mixed up is at the bottom of my list. His constant lying and hate speech are much more egregious faults.

I suspect that he also wears dentures that slip a lot. He seems to mangle words that way too. For the most part, I don't listen to him, or read his tweets. I already know that his speech and writing holds nothing inspirational, or are of any beneficial value.

pandr32

(11,562 posts)
46. All that may be true
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 04:40 PM
Nov 2019

...but we have no evidence whatsoever that Dum-Dum has made any effort to learn anything--including a word he doesn't normally use. Well, except for "quid pro quo" which he has been using a lot recently. It would be hard to know if he was suffering the beginnings of dementia. I think we will have to wait and watch to see if he forgets to put in his teeth as a clue.
As for forgetting a word now and again, I have done so often during my life for many reasons. Stress will do it, too, and most presidents have faced a considerable amount of it.
tRump has no problem remembering all his bullshit talking points and constantly adds new ones to the roster as older lies and stories unravel.
Don't get me wrong--I hope he has dementia. Add a whole list of other things to suffer with as well!

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
13. Dementia or just sheer stupidity?
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:46 PM
Nov 2019

I'm not sure. The only legal process Trump understands is the lawsuit. He has filed so many of them and has been sued so many times, he might actually think you can sue someone for treason. The word, "prosecute" has three syllables - two too many for Trump.

malaise

(268,717 posts)
49. Both given that he has been ignorant all his life
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:11 PM
Nov 2019

All his life he has been interested in acquiring wealth not knowledge

brush

(53,743 posts)
23. Exactly right. There is no way right now to oust a rogue or...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:05 PM
Nov 2019

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incapacitated person from the presidency, even in an emergency situation. The 25th Amendment needs amending.

And IMO there should be consequences for those who found early on in their stay in the WH that trump was grossly incompetent, unfit and dangerous for the country but said nothing, did nothing but defend him and collect their paychecks.

Pence, Conway, Huckabee Sanders, Barr, Mulvaney, Pompeo—people of that ilk.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
10. No. He is clever. It is propaganda. Promotes story he is 'innocent'.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:27 PM
Nov 2019

tRump is clever, not wise.

He is smart at two things: using other people's money and manipulating media.

He makes an outlandish statement, no matter how ridiculous, just so it gets media attention.

His base is dumb as rocks.

paleotn

(17,884 posts)
11. Lindsey said he was too stupid to do extortion.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:35 PM
Nov 2019

It doesn't take a genius, stable or otherwise, to cook up a bribery and extortion plot. Who's stupid are the Republicans for allowing this inevitable, party killing train wreck to get this far.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,372 posts)
12. Intellect and Republican to the best of my knowledge
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:45 PM
Nov 2019

are words that are seldom found in close proximity to one another in most libraries across the cosmos.

usaf-vet

(6,163 posts)
16. I'm sure over the years Trump has "sued hundreds if not thousands" of people that his lawyers....
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 12:55 PM
Nov 2019

.... just said ok we will do that. He thinks he can bend and law to fit his needs.

I'm waiting for him to try a file suit against God for not anointing him as King for life.

The man is DELUSIONAL. Don't expect reasonably sane ideas.

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
22. He seems to be deteriorating on a steady basis.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
Nov 2019

The stress is getting to him, I'm sure. Sucks to be Trump!

Peacetrain

(22,872 posts)
21. The crazy is so deep with that one.. he has no idea how government... works for the people
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:02 PM
Nov 2019

by the people and not for DJT..

lastlib

(23,164 posts)
32. He has ZERO interest in government working for people---
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:39 PM
Nov 2019

other than himself and his demon spawn. If it works to his/their personal benefit, it's good. If it works for anyone else--bad.

KPN

(15,637 posts)
24. He may not be the brightest or most competent, but in my view he's not as stupid as
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:07 PM
Nov 2019

too many seem to believe. He's all about appealing to the amygdala through branding ... and way too many people who actually vote are enraptured with those appeals, his "brands". He's a master at branding. Already yesterday he was calling Bloomberg "little Michael". His use of the phrase "sued for treason" was purposeful, not sheer stupidity. He cares little or not at all about looking or sounding stupid.

BTW no criticism intended. I agree that: he is stupid relative to presidential material generally, and that we must correct that (as you said "A man that stupid is President of the United States"!!!!). I am just a bit scared that we are underestimating him still. I sure hope not.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
25. He's not as stupid as you think.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:08 PM
Nov 2019

Donald Trump is afflicted (and has afflicted all of us) with his mental pathologies and appalling ignorance, but the kind of rhetoric you cite is what he has successfully employed to win the Republican primary; to win the general election (with help from Vlad); and to maintain a base of support that loves him precisely because of his extreme rhetoric.

Reminds me of Adlai Stevenson's reply to an aide who said thinking people will vote for him: "That's not enough; we need a majority."

Although Trump's base is a lost cause, Trump has spewed racist and nonsensical rhetoric since before the 2016 election. Don't expect it to move the needle.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
38. Bill Maher recently said something I thought poignant
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:10 PM
Nov 2019

That is, we all thought Donald Trump was a great businessman and a terrible politician.
It turns out he was a terrible businessman but a very good politician. As far as keeping his base loyal and the news media following his every word.

Yes, its easy (and fun!) to mock Trump's seemingly ill thought out phrases like, "SUED for Treason". But while we're chuckling how stupid he is, somewhere else some ornery red cap wearing deplorable is nodding his head in agreement that its perfectly understandable. It matters more that they have a President, the one they voted for, who will fight back, stand up for himself. Maybe he doesn't use all the right words together, but dag nabbit, they know exactly what he's getting at.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
39. +1
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 02:16 PM
Nov 2019

It can be difficult for rational informed people to fathom that mindset, but it's what we're up against.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
41. And I think to a large part Democratic politicians don't understand that disconnect.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 03:40 PM
Nov 2019

In that there seems to be this MO they work by which is to ASSUME everyone is just as smart as they are. Which can also be construed as speaking over the heads of people. That as long as you've researched every story from all sides, and are politically engaged, you SHOULD know that they are right, and the Republicans are wrong. That is the starting point they assume folks are caught up to them on.

That they don't need to over-emphasize the wrongs. And get it into a one line catch phrase. They are the calm collected, rational politicians who voters will respect if they just don't cause any waves, steer clear of any ideas that may seem too radical, and don't counter with their own sloganeering. They couldn't be more wrong. They may have been right years ago, but this is the age of mass information overload, and its a battle of branding. Republicans have known this for awhile now.

Martin Eden

(12,847 posts)
50. "And get it into a one line catch phrase"
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 06:28 PM
Nov 2019

Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility.

The above phrase should preface every response from every Democrat every time they're faced with the latest mendacity from the Liar-in-Chief.

Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility.

Rinse, repeat.

Again and again until it really starts to get obnoxious and people can't help but talk about.

It has the virtue of being true.

stopdiggin

(11,248 posts)
45. everything you say may be true, but ...
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 04:21 PM
Nov 2019

Has Trump brought any NEW people on board with his gibberish? Yes we all know about the "base" .. but sooner or later you're going to need more than just the deplorables. Trump had a lot of those "others" in 2016. He has a LOT LESS of the them now.

Conventional wisdom already says that Trump lies almost constantly. The average voter is also starting to accept that he is just bat-sh*t crazy. And they're probably not going to vote for bat-sh*t.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
47. I hope you are right stopdiggin
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 05:42 PM
Nov 2019

But what is it?.....something like 90% of Republicans would vote for him again?
I think its obvious that it doesn't matter if he lies....(because so do all politicians they'll say )
It doesn't matter that he cheats on his wife. or pays off porn stars.
It doesn't matter that he makes rude and abusive comments to even decorated soldiers
It doesn't matter that he uses his office for financial gain, or hires his children and they use their position to also make money.
Heck, it doesn't even matter to his largest base, the evangelicals, if he's the first(?) President to say he doesn't need God, never has asked for forgiveness, because he doesn't think he needs to, never attends church, unless its for a photo op. And swears like a sailor.

Its call populism and populist for a reason. There is I think a big part his appeal in just how original, how entertaining, how disruptive he is to normal political news and the normal protocol of dealing with diplomacy. I think Democrats underestimate that kind of appeal they run against, despite Trumps flaws, if they think running the most establishment status quo, Washington-entrenched politician, will be a shoe in. Sadly, I think many voters, especially those that don't follow politics all that well, actually want Trump 2.0 just to see what he does. Just to watch the fireworks.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
29. I thought this was going to be a "Yo Momma" thread
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:23 PM
Nov 2019

As in "Donald Trump is so stupid, he sits on the TV, and watches the couch!"

hadEnuf

(2,177 posts)
30. Trump appeals to the lower elements in the country with stupid terms like that,
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:32 PM
Nov 2019

along with his "reds under the bed" style gas-lighting bullshit. Then then the right-wing propaganda machine swings into action to validate and perpetuate Trump's insane gibberish from Fox News right down to the lowest scum ball posting their filth on a forum somewhere.

It 's a well oiled and well funded machine that can propagandize almost anything to feed to the masses and keep a large amount of them brainwashed. They literally alter reality to the point of it depending on who you like and listen to, instead of what the facts really are.


PatSeg

(47,282 posts)
33. Trump thinks that suing people
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:41 PM
Nov 2019

is the answer to every problem. During his business career, whenever he didn't get his way, he sued someone. Its the only part of the legal system that he seems to be aware of.

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
35. The only things more stupid are the idiots who
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 01:45 PM
Nov 2019

hear him say this and cheer as if he has made a profound, patriotic statement.

KPN

(15,637 posts)
58. Exactly what the POS is counting on.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 11:11 AM
Nov 2019

He’s no dummy when it comes to using the media to attract attention, manipulate or inspire amygdala’s and brand.

yonder

(9,657 posts)
43. I share your bafflement as to his cluelessness, MM.
Sat Nov 9, 2019, 03:58 PM
Nov 2019

But I guess one couldn't be too surprised. In a life with little else but counting clams and keeping track of whom is suing who, lawsuits are the measure of his knowledge of lawfulness.

With luck, he shall get some personal exposure to criminal law....after conviction in the Senate.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
59. But Above all
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 05:29 AM
Nov 2019

Keep in mind the media is giving Trump billions of dollars worth of publicity each and every day. His tweets are shown over and over. 4 pundits sit around tables discussing Trump 24 hours a day.

And here on this board we are all doing the same.

I need to take my Sons advice, turn off the TV, get off the political boards, find something else to do. I am ready!

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