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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm now 100% convinced: every single person who is going to vote for Trump after all this...
is a racist...I guess there could be a few dumb shits.
Even those that I know. I'd always wondered if the leaned that way, now I believe it to be true.
I said it on FaceBook a couple years ago, and a few people (I didn't know) replied, "So you're calling me a racist?"
No. I'm saying I believe you are a racist if you vote/support Trump after all of this.
50 Shades Of Blue
(9,983 posts)struggle4progress
(118,281 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)brewens
(13,581 posts)NCLefty
(3,678 posts)They continually support a party that is--and a party that will use its real power to try to hurt my family--so there's very little difference to me.
Girard442
(6,070 posts)Some are mostly crazy. Some are mostly stupid. Some are mostly evil. The majority are a mixture, in various proportions.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,173 posts)They need an authority figure to provide answers for them. Which is why evangelicals, who also have this inner need, make up a large part of his base.
Now this authority figure, probably right wing, as most authoritarians are from that spectrum (Liberals being all liberal and all) can be a simple technocrat and be hard about deficits and the debt. Pro austerity, cutting services, but never raising tax on the wealthy. Usually lowing them. And thus eating up any savings from all those cuts to services and benefits no one is getting anymore. But we expect that in any Republican or Conservative administration. Its what they do.
Trump is 'a ho otha leva' Trump voters can ride his coat tails made of sheer unearned arrogance and self righteousness. Its not just policy, Moscow Mitch takes care of all that for him. its that they can live through his whole personality. He dares express all the dark latent prejudices we all harbour deep down. Some of us stop and rationalize ourselves out of that train of thought, or better yet never allow it to gain any traction, but there's always some that can't. Too stupid, or evil, or crazy. and as long as the big dumb wanna-be gangster is entertaining, every day in the most tabloid way, and never shows any remorse or regret for anything, they'll lap him up! because it means they don't have to have any regrets either. He liberates them from their shame and racist guilt.
Like the second coming of Jesus. He wears every dirty deed, or word, or insult, or theft, or affair, or abuse, on himself for them on his own gold gilded cross. Maybe its all sewn into his tie as it gets longer every month. He still could shoot someone, and maybe he'd be charged for it, but he wouldn't lose his cult. That Trump spectrum, will continue to vote for him, if they can. And will follow him on Twitter and elsewhere no matter what.
Girard442
(6,070 posts)I used to think that being "taken over by the Dark Side of the Force" was just an entertaining plot device. I'm wondering now if I had that wrong.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)A lot of moneyed Republicans have gone along with Trump and turned their faces from his racism, misogyny, bigotry, incompetence, lies, and traitorous behavior in order to get themselves a tax cut. I know because my brother and his wife belong to the cult and for them, it's all about money.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)It was crystal clear well before the 2016 election that Trump was a racist (and sexist, xenophobe, rapist, fraud, tax cheat, etc.).
The "economic anxiety" crowd (including, sadly, some on the left end of the political spectrum) never stopped to wonder why it is that something like 98% of Black women apparently don't experience a bit of this "economic anxiety." Some of those folks are still convinced that the key to success in 2020 is converting Trump supporters. Beyond ignorant.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Threatening to vote for Trump if the nominee raises their taxes. One billionaire even cried on national TV.
I guess they don't care about his racism.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)You're kidding right ? After giant tax cuts and a "booming" Wall street. I should be suicidal.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)This is what I mean
Billionaire Cries On-Air Over A Wealth Tax
Bill Gates Doesn't Rule Out Voting For Trump If Democrats Make Him Pay Too Much in Taxes
https://www.google.com/amp/s/gizmodo.com/bill-gates-doesnt-rule-out-voting-for-trump-if-democrat-1839686670/amp
C Moon
(12,212 posts)But letting the rest of us live under the rule of a racist fascist is okay.
Yep, that one fits the bill: racistbecause of apathy.
CrispyQ
(36,460 posts)than someone who will make them share the wealth. That's how deep their greed goes.
CrispyQ
(36,460 posts)More than a few, I'm sure. But yes, at the base, is a belief that America is for straight, white Christians.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)mopinko
(70,089 posts)i honestly believe he is a data point in the cambridge analytica scandal.
racism has been an extremely effective tool in all this, but it isnt the only button they pushed.
this person is an obama=>sanders=> trump voter, and imho, he was a different sort of target in this whole thing.
they really worked his sense of justice and fairness, and i describe him thus-
the real deep state poured an toxic hallucinogen into his brain through the hole in his head.
he believes a lot of stupid ct shit, and i think this is just one more.
he was trolled into being a troll by poking him in the center of his essential decency.
i hold out hope for his awakening.
in most cases, you are correct, but i am quite curious to see what happens when and if reality breaks through to this one.
crickets
(25,964 posts)The propaganda brainwashing is reversible, to a degree, but it requires removing the influence that caused the transformation. Fox News isn't going anywhere for now, and Zuckerberg likes Facebook the way it is.
There's at least one member of my family who has undergone this type of character and personality change (mostly thanks to Bill O.) and at this point it looks like it's probably going to be permanent. It's sad and frustrating to see a good person turn into somebody you don't even recognize any more. Our family cannot touch political discussions. It just rips us all to shreds if we don't ignore the stinky elephant in the room, and I put up with it because the children (now grown) are wonderful, having children of their own, and I love them and don't want to miss seeing them. It just makes me feel like something has been stolen from all of us. It's awful.
mopinko
(70,089 posts)to us all.
i am actually somewhat fascinated watching this person.
i saw a vid here a bit ago about a guy who broke out of scientology when he started employing the lessons of science and science based thinking.
that is kinda my tack here. he believes a lot of other stupid things. ct's but also old wives tales. he is kinda sketchy health, and i am helping him get hooked up w some medical care. i think this is gonna be a thing on my/reality side of the scale.
crickets
(25,964 posts)Good on you for continuing to care for your friend. I hope you're able to get him the medical help he needs.
mopinko
(70,089 posts)but he is so good in the ways that is still good, i have to keep hoping and trying.
and i am hopeful. his live just took a big turn for the better, and i am so curious to see that happens as that settles in.
really fascinating in a way.
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Racist idiots.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)They are.
captain queeg
(10,184 posts)I used to think there were a few other reasons for some, but racism is the bottom line.
BigmanPigman
(51,585 posts)and misogynistic and hypocritical and...............................
Initech
(100,067 posts)Which really says more about their religion than it does about them.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)BuffaloJackalope
(818 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)mudstump
(342 posts)give a shit about the country that's for sure.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)8% of Blacks, 29% of Asians, and 29% of Hispanics voted for him. I imagine a lot of them (and whites as well) do it on religious grounds and race has nothing to do with it.
kacekwl
(7,016 posts)the stupid category.
OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)I was just commenting regarding the "every single person" in the OP. People vote for different reasons, and while there may be a large percentage of racists voting for Trump, there are others for whom race doesn't factor into their voting decisions at all.
mac56
(17,566 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... separating their support wit his racism any longer.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Demobrat
(8,970 posts)have in common is that they blame liberals for the fact that they have to look at unattractive homeless people in their expensive San Francisco neighborhoods.
They dont have a problem with immigrants so much as they have a problem with the down and out. And they believe that the down and out make their way here because the liberals insist on taking such good care of them.
You know, by letting them sleep in doorways and under freeways where they spoil the view.
Cousin Dupree
(1,866 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)I you support a racist, then you have to admit youre a racist. Otherwise, you are a racist and a liar.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)fear and ignorance drives them to vote repuke
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)with the Christian right. They are all about suppressing LGBTQ and women. They have been infiltrating the top levels of the US government for decades, while gay and women's rights advanced. With Trump, who has no regard for the rule of law or the rights granted by our Constitution, they can fulfill their agenda of "protecting" their extreme fundamentalist Christian beliefs. That would be, no gays or women need apply.
They'll go after the non Christians and the non whites later.. first it's the gays and women that need to get back into line.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Ignorant white wing racists are his solid base.
summer_in_TX
(2,735 posts)We are good at making it clear that we know we are better human beings than everyone who votes Republican and certainly anyone who ever voted for Trump.
I'm not saying that our discernment of his lack of character and unfitness wasn't better. It's just that assuming the worst about people we don't know is prejudice.
Personally I think tribalism may well be the biggest factor for many. They identify as Rs and despise the sense that Ds look down their noses at them. FOX NEWS and other RW media certainly make sure they are aware of it. Limbaugh says we HATE Trump supporters, for instance. (And not without some evidence that it could be true, by the way.)
If we are conveying that we believe we are morally and intellectual superior it's not surprising if it makes Rs flaming mad and glad to do whatever it takes to frustrate Ds. Tribalism predisposes them to vote R even for bad candidates like Trump.
Maybe it's only venting in this safe place or with safe friends, but it does reach them. It may not be that many of us but it's enough to convince Rs it is all of us, especially with people like Limbaugh acting as a megaphone to amplify it. He knows how to stoke their anger and play them like a fiddle, and it's too bad we make that easy for him to do so all too often.
Poiuyt
(18,122 posts)vote for trump
SKKY
(11,804 posts)...will still get them into heaven as long as they vote for someone who is anti-abortion. They think the Lord has an algorithm that calculates sin, and if youre in the positive you get it. I have many family members who believe that 100%. Crazy...
hughee99
(16,113 posts)And I wouldnt agree with any Trump voter, so this makes complete sense.