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Kristallnacht vs Trump tweet (Original Post) IcyPeas Nov 2019 OP
K&R, Hitler had to kill a lot of pols on the left to get Germany in line. I wouldn't put that past uponit7771 Nov 2019 #1
He's a POS. Behind the Aegis Nov 2019 #2
98% of the public is unaware of the connection bucolic_frolic Nov 2019 #3
Media is complicit gab13by13 Nov 2019 #7
And people wonder Aviation Pro Nov 2019 #4
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Nov 2019 #5
This guy does not believe in democracy ouija Nov 2019 #6
Racist sexist book: Women gave nothing to civilization. Native Am benefitted from dieing in genocide Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #8
Drumpf doesn't read Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2019 #9
This was Intentional; djacq Nov 2019 #10

uponit7771

(90,300 posts)
1. K&R, Hitler had to kill a lot of pols on the left to get Germany in line. I wouldn't put that past
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:38 AM
Nov 2019

... Red Don

Behind the Aegis

(53,912 posts)
2. He's a POS.
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 05:58 AM
Nov 2019

The think is he will never...never...read the book, but it sends to the message it needs to, the dog whistle has been sounded, for all parties.

gab13by13

(21,210 posts)
7. Media is complicit
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:45 AM
Nov 2019

is spot on. Few people, few Democrats realize that all of cable news carries right wing water, espouses the right wing narrative. There are a few cable news anchors who buck the system, but not many.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,922 posts)
8. Racist sexist book: Women gave nothing to civilization. Native Am benefitted from dieing in genocide
Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:57 AM
Nov 2019
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/review-essay/2019-11-07/americas-original-identity-politics

The people who preceded the English settlers were either few and far between or benefitted from the arrival of these newcomers. There was “basically no one in California to have a popular will” when white pioneers arrived, Lowry writes [...]

The more “underhanded and brutish” episodes in U.S. history, such as the near eradication of Native Americans, were cosmically necessary, since they paved the way for the “stupendous boon” brought by continental expansion.


That is so stupidly ignorant of history, and in a racist way. Ethnic cleansing and genocide benefitted them? Not the world I live in.

The problem with nationalism, the British historian Eric Hobsbawm once wrote, is that it requires too much belief in what isn’t so. Lowry’s claims rest on a maddening evasiveness when it comes to definitions. At times he uses the word “nation” to refer to a social group. At other times the word stands for a sovereign country


Few of Lowry’s statements would pass muster with historians who have been to an archive or tried to write about the past in ways that admit complexity. “Ancient Egypt constituted a unified state, ruling an ethnically homogeneous people with a distinct culture, for thousands of years,” he claims. “The same was true of China, Korea, and Japan.” Sweeping assertions like these are legion, and to any serious thinker they should be an embarrassment. A society might have an identifiable high culture, or a dominant language of trade or governance, or characteristic art forms in particular historical periods. But to claim homogeneity, much less “ethnic” sameness, for millennia is thoughtless sloganeering.


Women are almost entirely absent from Lowry’s national past and present. By my count, fewer than a dozen or so women merit a mention in his book: Queen Elizabeth I and Joan of Arc are among them, along with a bevy of current-day intellectuals such as Amy Gutmann and Martha Nussbaum, who are there to be argued against. When he uses the term “we,” it almost always refers to white people of Anglo-Saxon heritage, or at least people who are not Native Americans, Latinx, or recent immigrants.


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