I regret referring to Trump supporters as "idiot racist fuckheads."

[Orrex]

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I met my first (AFAIK) Qanon today, and I realized just how grossly inadequate the term "idiot racist fuckhead" is to describe the catastrophically disastrous lunatics.

They are so far beyond simple idiocy, or racism, or fuckheadness that I confess I simply wouldn't have believed it if you'd described one of them to me.

Their minds are lost. They are full-blown cultists.

I once spent two hours in a one-on-one meeting with a fairly high-ranking Scientologist, and by comparison he seemed entirely sane and rational and full of good ideas.

The unhinged and frothing cultist I met this morning so exceeds my wildest concept of a Trump zealot that I honestly thought he was pranking me.

If only.


I knew that they were dangerous, but they're much, much worse than I'd imagined.

Holy shit what a seething cauldron of hideous mental dysfunction.


And to all you idiot racist fuckheads lurking here with the intent of reposting this on your little circle jerk conservative forum, every last one of you can go fuck yourselves, individually and collectively.

[guillaumeb]

1. Recommended

I am generally polite, but I do make exceptions for Nazis, KKK members, and certain other open racists.

We must never underestimate the power of hate. Nazi Germany was just one such example of how hate must be resisted.

[Atticus]

4. I like your attitude. nt

[Dustlawyer]

35. And like Nazi Germany these people have been programmed to hate.

The RW media has created this cult since Reagan. Trump's base cannot be swayed by facts or logic as they have been trained not to believe anything that doesn't align perfectly with their beliefs.

Until we can come up with a way to require some truth in the news, Americans cannot come together again.

Before I get hit with some Free Speech argument it is possible for the government to restrict speech if there is a compelling governmental interest, such as making it illegal to shout "fire" in a crowded theater if there is no fire. Fox News won an appeal out of Florida where it is ok for them to lie because Fox News was found to not be news... it is entertainment. Things like this need to be addressed legislatively once we can take the Senate and the WH.

[guillaumeb]

36. Agreed.

It is impossible to debate someone when there is no agreement on what a fact is.

One cannot actually debate a Holocaust denier.

One cannot debate a climate change denier.

One cannot debate someone who claims that "alternative facts" exist.

[lonely bird]

57. Nah, it goes back much farther

While Saint Ronald the Dim had the advantage of mass media the roots go back to the South and John C. Calhoun and probably farther than that in human society in general.

Personally, there is a collection of people that the world would have been better off if they hadn’t been born.

John C. Calhoun
James Buchanan (the economist)
Leo Strauss
Russell Kirk
Von Hayek
Von Mises
William F. Buckley

On and on.

Preaching a theology of radicalized economics and racial hatred. What wonderful examples of Homo Sapiens.

[Wellstone ruled]

2. Geese,know where you are coming from.

Got a Son in Law who believes this crap. And have a Sibling who joined the ranks of Q. Sad to say,had to block his friggin E-Mails. And he was through the real shit mill in Nam.

[Martin Eden]

3. "seething cauldron of hideous mental dysfunction"

Very good turn of phrase.

Too bad it's still inadequate in describing these cultists.

[Celerity]

5. +1

[wnylib]

24. I met one of these cultists a few days ago.

Words are inadequate to describe them but "seething cauldron if hideous mental dysfunction" does it pretty well.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

6. Neither Lindsey Graham nor Scientologists will read anything "against" their cult. nt

[lunatica]

7. It's like we've discovered a whole new species of human

Are we the evolved ones or are they the example of a human mutation of future man?

Does Darwin take de-evolution as a sign of future man?

[Lucky Luciano]

34. Idiocracy

[AZ8theist]

42. I know you're being sarcastic in your post...

And I share your disbelief. However, we are all the same species, Homo Sapiens. There is just a lot of variability within the species. That being said, I believe we are entirely UNEVOLVED to the point of self destruction. We imagine ourselves as masters of the universe, when we can plainly see there are those among us who are, for lack of a better term, IMBECILES.
And those imbeciles have as their leader the biggest imbecile of them all. I have little hope for the survival of mankind, much less the survival of our democracy.

[Moostache]

66. I know what your point is...

but these Trump/Q-anon people, in an IQ-based test with a Homo Erectus member:



I might be inclined to put some money on the H. Erectus representative!

[UpInArms]

45. They are not human ... only wearing human suits

Kind of like the roach wearing a brand new Edgar suit in Men in Black

[Augiedog]

8. They are about to get a fucking, collectively and singularly. First impeachment, then they loose the

Senate. Then maybe they will realize their “seething cauldron of hideous mental dysfunction”, seek help, and reform. beg forgiveness. Nah, every time one of them takes a shit they are that much dumber.

[uponit7771]

9. MAGA Cultist believe professional wrestling is real

[oldsoftie]

60. Dont drag wrestling down to the level of Trump. Wrestlers WORK for their money.

[orleans]

10. my god, orrex, how do you meet these people?

i'm not sure i really want to know. i'm just glad i'm not aware of people like that.

and whatever you're doing & wherever you're at--please be careful.

[Orrex]

12. It started as a professional interaction, safely enough

Then he asked "what do you think of all this impeachment stuff?"

I answered "it's a crazy circus, that's for sure." I figured that was a fairly neutral answer, not identifying Herr Trump as the clown in chief, but the guy took it as a sign that I was a receptive audience, and that's when he started sharing The Truth.

[orleans]

38. wow. it seems that professional interaction

was just looking for a way to go off the cliff by asking you that leading question.

i'd freak out if someone started talking that shit to me. (i'm sure you handled it far better than i would have. lol)

[Orrex]

39. I knew that it would be futile to engage in debate...

not to mention that it would have gotten me in trouble with my employer.

So I resorted to a neutral series of "oh yeah?" "no kidding?" and "wow."

After I left the site I unscrewed the top of my skull and wrung out my brain to clear the Qanon spew.

[chwaliszewski]

54. Try Clorox brain bleach...

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as I think it's the only thing that will work against such filth.

[TrogL]

64. Do have a recommendation for eye bleach?

*shudders* the things that I have seen. The horror. The horror.

[Beartracks]

56. I've had to do the "Oh wow" thing before. I'm not a good debater. Fortunately...

... I mainly work with people of the Democratic persuasion.

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[orleans]

59. i love that "neutral series of..."

oh yeahs, no kiddings, and wows.

glad you held it together.



good job on your run-in with the crazies

[rampartc]

11. "trust the plan"

I can't even follow the qanon crap enough to dispute, and neither to they

[SleeplessinSoCal]

14. info:

5. Why do people believe this nonsense?

To answer that question, let us turn to "The Paranoid Style in American Politics," the classic American political essay by historian Richard Hofstadter. Originally published in Harper's Magazine in 1964, Hofstadter dissected what causes people to subscribe to conspiracy theories. His argument was based not on a psychological diagnosis but rather on a particular style that tends to appeal to people regardless of whether it has any objective merit:

The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millennialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse...

As a member of the avant-garde who is capable of perceiving the conspiracy before it is fully obvious to an as yet unaroused public, the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated—if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention.

https://www.salon.com/2019/08/18/qanon-is-the-conspiracy-theory-that-wont-die-heres-what-they-believe-and-why-theyre-wrong/

[Raster]

13. You know the insane, ludicrous fuckery is strong...

...when Sebastian Gorka* (worst pretend Bond villain ever) has to tell the Q's they are bat-shit crazy.

[Kurt V.]

15. yeah. I'm related to one. i'll see him at thanksgiving. he's smart, successful

and funny as hell. yet he believes the qanon stuff.

[dewsgirl]

26. Scary as hell.

[ChoppinBroccoli]

16. I Often Have To Ask Them, "What Color Is The Sky In Your World?"

Particularly when they start babbling on about how Trump might be the greatest President in our history, and we have to honor him for all his accomplishments. I'm always like, "WHAT accomplishments???"

It always reminds me of the old Lewis Black joke he told about people who used to tell him that George W. Bush was a great leader. "I have to ask myself, where can one find a drug that could make one SO delusional?"

[dewsgirl]

28. I love Lewis Black, have for probably 20 years.

[louis-t]

17. I know a guy that believes the 'chem-trails' stuff.

Our minds are being controlled by vapors at 30,000 feet.

[GoneOffShore]

18. Perhaps the term you're looking for is 'egregious racist Nazi fuckwits'?

[chowder66]

19. That was cathartic to read. Thank you. nt

[KY_EnviroGuy]

20. Really not much worse than millions of church members singing tRump's praise....

literally every Sunday morning. Brainwashed over a 30-year or so period using a program of Ralph Reed, Rush Limbaugh, and Fox NoNews.

And, with dozens of billionaire-funded right-wing think tanks fanning the flames, they never run out of source material.

We do have a very serious cultural and mental problem in our nation and we best start fixing it soon....

[Demsrule86]

21. Yeah, kind of mean to your garden variety fuckheads...don't you think?

[SWBTATTReg]

22. I know that all of us in DU land know this but we do have the absolute right too, for freedom of ...

speech and thus have the right to sprout our beliefs just as fervently as they do. If they choose to rant and rave w/o giving me the benefit of my rights, I simply turn around and walk away. Don't give them a platform or soapbox, they don't deserve it since apparently they don't feel like anyone deserves it.

I have only met a couple of such jarheads like the above, but I'm serious in defending our sacred rights too. Strongly too. And the 'strongly' comes about solely because of their ridiculous attempt to shout over, yell over any beliefs (non rump) expressed. To be fair, most people are nice enough to listen calmly, but there are a few 'dingbats' that don't and are utterly hostile to any non rump ideas or thoughts.

[wnylib]

33. Good idea in most cases but I was on a bus

when it happened to me. It started when a woman LOUDLY intruded on a quiet, private conversation I was having with another passenger.

The intruder ranted nonstop until I cut her off for her rudeness. She switched to victim mode then and accused me of cursing at her (I hadn't) and said I was not very peaceful toward her if I was one of those liberals who always talk about peace.

So I agreed with her. I said peace is a virtue. I held up my fingers in a peace sign. Other people caught on and also made peace signs. When she tried to respond, I said "Peace, sister." When she brought up the need to fight the devil, people laughed. I thought that would rile her even more but she got quiet then. Not sure why. Maybe she thought we were all demons serving the devil and was too busy praying for protection against us to continue her rants.

Or maybe she just realized that she had forgot her meds that day.

[SWBTATTReg]

69. A perfect response on your part. Didn't give in to her supposedly victim mode and didn't get...

anywhere w/ anyone else either. When will these idiots realize just how much 'out of it' they truly are, compared to the rest of us, and that no one is really interested in their ranting and raving?

[griloco]

23. TrumpMarks

[bdamomma]

25. they are worst

than the teapartiers. Crap

[Loge23]

27. See: The Alabama idiot

The idiot who slashed the BabytRump balloon is in the media today after ranting on some call-in radio show about the balloon represents "good vs evil".
Then there's famed white supremacist/racist Stephen Miller's emails which reveal nothing to us but more of his fascist nonsense - and he works in the White House!
Nikki Whatshername is in the news today also saying how the #IPOTUS is a paradigm of honesty.
On a local note, a former client of mine called recently and shared with me his belief that the economy will tank if his orange idol isn't reelected.

We have been saying that the country is screwed for some time now, so what else should we expect? It is screwed, we're screwed, and there's no happy ending in sight. Even if we do prevail in November, these idiots are not going away.

[Orrex]

31. They really do think of themselves as righteous warriors for truth and goodness

The guy this morning repeatedly referred to himself (and others of like mind) as "white hats," all the while spelling out the nefarious schemes of the deep state.

He brought up the Rothschilds & the Bilderburgs, of course, just when I didn't think it was possible for my eyes to glaze over any thicker.

He actually and literally believes that Epstein had secret underwater tunnels to his island wherein Epstein, Clinton, and others (though not Trump of course) kill, dismember, and eat children as part of some dark ritual.

[FormerDittoHead]

29. The logical result of "conservative" / Repubican thinking...

There are so many basic, fundamental "principles" of the Republican/conservative doctrine that deny reality and facts, the logical product of it all can not reasonably make sense.

The entire Republican "philosophy" is based upon a series of lies, very much like the the same lies which slavery-approving Southerners must have steeped themselves in in order to make sense of their world.

So to see samples of this pop up now and then makes no surprise. I'm happy it's becoming clear to others.

I should say that someone who truly enlightened me on this general observation was listening to Mike Malloy, who brings out the FIRE on his show.

[IronLionZion]

30. Some of these assholes have been convicted of domestic terrorism and murder

so I would steer clear of them.

[sop]

32. "Every absurdity has a champion to defend it" - Oliver Goldsmith (Irish Novelist, Poet)

[Pepsidog]

37. Scary isn't it?

[coeur_de_lion]

40. Oh c'mon you mean you didn't believe

That JFK Jr. and Carolyn Bessette were going to parachute into cheeto’s most recent rally?

Oh ye of little faith.

{{{sarcasm}}}

[roamer65]

41. I know what needs to be done with them.

But I won’t say it here.

[BuffaloJackalope]

43. People Think This Whole QAnon Conspiracy Theory Is A Prank On Trump Supporters

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanhatesthis/its-looking-extremely-likely-that-qanon-is-probably-a

[Orrex]

46. That's all well and good, but these are real, unhinged assholes who've found their purpose

The author of every single Qanon "revelation" could reveal himself and the prank, and absolutely none of the Qanon cultists would believe it or even briefly question their devotion to the cause.

[kyburbonkid]

44. Don't forget they like to throw babies in cages and lock-em-up.

How can anyone support a cult-like the GOP rethuglicans when their answer to DACA is to lock little immigrant babies up in baby prison.
That just makes me sick, and I can't see how any real decent American could ever support that. Fucking evil fucks.

[warmfeet]

47. At least as surprising,

to me anyway, is that they have been here (in this current iteration of civilization) all along. The rift has been here, but I did not notice. I need to pay closer attention.

[Jrsygrl96]

48. God

It all comes down to God. With all of them.

I have a cousin who is all in on Q-Anon. And the deep state. And Obama stuff will get blown wide open and he will be hanged for treason. My cousin has been waiting for this (and 45) since 1988. Jesus is going to come down and take him to heaven in rapture. He believes Hillary is part of the child porn ring and pizzagate is a real thing.

All of my "conservative" friends believe 45 was chosen by God. They are truly cultists now. No reasoning with any of them.

The Republican party is now dead. There are no moderates anymore. They are now Trumplicans. And it is truly frightening!!!!

[colsohlibgal]

49. They Are Right Wing Creeps

Here in Columbus, OH some Trump lover or group of them have been prowling our libraries finding anti Trump books and misplacing them among the other books.

I hope these types remember the ultimate fate of Hitler, Mussolini, and their fanatics.

But Nazis are like rats, hard to eradicate for good.

[PatrickforO]

50. Indeed, because you're NOT making 'murika grate agin' by being a racist, homophobic,

undereducated, drooling gun nut that doesn't have a clue how a government should function. You're making it WORSE.

[BobTheSubgenius]

51. I'm as aghast as you, I think...and beyond disgusted.

I actually know two cult members here...on Vancouver Island, BC. It is generally a moderately left-leaning area, electing the only two Green Party members to the federal government, for instance.

How do people living in this environment go so far off the rails? One of them actually said that Drumps was one of the smartest people he had ever encountered. "Did you notice that he never says 'Ummm?'"

Raving smoothly and uninterrupted is a pretty bizarre measure of intelligence.

[Initech]

52. Seriously after hearing about Stephen Miller's genocidal thoughts today, fuck 'em all.

[yardwork]

53. Great rant. KnR

[XRubicon]

55. I don't.

[JonLP24]

58. I've been around Alex Jones true believers before Trump

They are indeed scary. I saw this rising far right nationalist movement coming when Trump was in Arizona. What didn't scare me was Trump saying Mexicans are rapists but the crowd cheering that line.

[Liberal In Texas]

61. You need to get some new friends.

I wouldn't give either of them 2 minutes let alone 2 hours.

[Orrex]

62. Trust me, he's no friend of mine

He was a customer, and if I could have cut it any shorter than two hours, believe me I would have.

He also kept wanting to show me YouTube videos that he claimed are being suppressed, each of them 15+ minutes long and full (I'm sure) of more crazy bullshit.

[The Wizard]

63. Logic and reason escape them

You may as well piss into the wind.

[lambchopp59]

65. Idiot Racist Fuckhead Bullies

Likely to include all too many of the "hate-skool" macho idiots I had the dis-privilege to spend some of my junior school years with. There was no other moment in that coal-minin' town more sickening to me than the day several of the retired miners were sitting on a porch engaged in asinine conversation somehow regarding our group of kids walking to the bus stop from school, when one of the most repulsive, toothless, unfiltered cig-rette puffing idiots proffered his opinion: "All that book-larnin don't do you no good"- to a chorus of raucous laughter.
I realized for the first time I was attempting to mature among a group of gran-papa influenced bullies.
I can age a picture practically every one of the boys I was with wearing MAGA hats, cheering loudly at absolutely anything, no matter how asinine the orange creep says.

Fuck every last one of them, and fuck the republicans for rallying them.

[CrispyQ]

67. I thought we could reach them, too, reach out & work to show them the truth.

Then I talked with my rwnj cousin & he is totally unreachable. He has bought into the Clinton/Obama Deep State bullshit & he will double down on every wrong thing he believes & says. Then my husband experienced the same thing with his rwnj brother. These people are never going to accept the truth or reality. They are going to tell themselves whatever they have to to hang onto the belief that 1) they weren't conned, 2) they weren't stupid, & 3) they weren't wrong.

[Kind of Blue]

68. "the lesson that this long course in human wickedness had taught us - the lesson of the fearsome,

word-and-thought-defying banality of evil” ~ Hannah Arendt

[Orrex]

70. I'd like to thank the idiot racist fuckheads at ConservativeCesspit for proving my point

Predictably, those shoe-biting asshats couldn't wait to rant about my rant, few of them taking even a moment to disavow any of Qanon's toxic insane bullshit.

Delicate motherfuckers that they are, they took care to censor my post, so that their fragile eyes wouldn't be harmed by the term "fuckhead."

So thank you, you semi-sentient zealots for once again showing yourselves as the deranged cult of coprophages that we always knew you to be.

Can't wait for this post to pop up over there. It'll be one of the few posts among your idiots' drivel that's factually true.


Once again, go fuck yourselves, each and every last one of you Trump-licking lunatics.