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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:31 PM Nov 2019

Trump might be innocent in the Ukraine affair.

All that is needed is to believe in all of his lunatic rantings about the Deep State,

to believe in all of his lunatic rantings about never-Trumpers, including many of his own appointees,

to believe in all of his lunatic rantings that the Governments of Ukraine, Britain, Germany, Australia, and of course the US Government, are all involved in this conspiracy to prevent Trump from making America great again,

to believe in all of his lunatic rantings that all of the media, including FOX at times, is in a conspiracy to create fake news to defeat Trump,

to believe in all of his lunatic rantings that suggest we should ignore all of the actual witness testimony regarding Trump's attempted extortion and bribery in the Ukraine matter.

Or, if we cannot accept that this conspiracy exists, that leaves another option.

That we acknowledge that Trump is once again lying to save himself.

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Trump might be innocent in the Ukraine affair. (Original Post) guillaumeb Nov 2019 OP
Well, who are you going to believe? gratuitous Nov 2019 #1
It is possible that a serial liar might tell the truth, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #2
only AFTER he provides ALL the evidence the House requested bluestarone Nov 2019 #3
Yes, the evidence. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #4
It is most likely that he is lying. MontanaMama Nov 2019 #5
Given his life long history of lying, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #6
He might be the best husband ever too. dem4decades Nov 2019 #7
And his daughter Ivanka created 14 million jobs in 3 years. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #8
In China? dem4decades Nov 2019 #10
Perhaps. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #11
And I might be Marie of Romania Maeve Nov 2019 #9
Hello your Majesty. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #12
Trump's base customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #13
Sadly, I must agree. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #15
Most of his supporters are not watching today. One lady told me that Bill Oreilly helpisontheway Nov 2019 #17
That is truly sad. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #18
There doesn't need to have been a quid pro quo for him to be guilty MissMillie Nov 2019 #14
True, and as many have said, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #16

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Well, who are you going to believe?
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:32 PM
Nov 2019

The facts in front of your eyes, or Donald Trump, author of more than 10,000 documented lies since his inauguration?

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. It is possible that a serial liar might tell the truth,
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 04:39 PM
Nov 2019

however, this fantasy explanation that Trump and his GOP enablers have created bears no resemblance to any of the actual evidence and testimony that has been presented.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
8. And his daughter Ivanka created 14 million jobs in 3 years.
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 05:40 PM
Nov 2019

But actual statistics show only 6 million jobs were created. And this proves that everyone but Trump is lying.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
13. Trump's base
Tue Nov 12, 2019, 10:58 PM
Nov 2019

indeed believes all of that, and if they remain anchored to those beliefs, then the Republicons in the Senate (most of them, anyway) will vote to acquit, no matter how much evidence the House dishes up.

helpisontheway

(5,005 posts)
17. Most of his supporters are not watching today. One lady told me that Bill Oreilly
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 03:19 PM
Nov 2019

told her not to watch. She said he told his viewers that he would sit through it and let them know what was said. More like his spin on what was said. SMH

MissMillie

(38,531 posts)
14. There doesn't need to have been a quid pro quo for him to be guilty
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 01:14 AM
Nov 2019

It was illegal for him to withhold the funding.

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