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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:23 AM Nov 2019

David Frum tweet: Trump was not "democratically elected"- he lost by 2.9 million votes



David Frum ✔ @davidfrum

Trump was not "democratically elected" - he lost by 2.9 million votes. He was "constitutionally elected," by an 18th century constitutional design that includes a ban on foreign bribes to the president and that offers impeachment and removal as a remedy for bribe-seeking

Mickey Kaus @kausmickey

I suppose if the Respectable Interagency Consensus on Ukraine is willing to righteously remove a democratically elected president -- in Ukraine (2014) -- it's not such a big step to justify doing the same thing in the US.


8:13 AM - Nov 13, 2019


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David Frum tweet: Trump was not "democratically elected"- he lost by 2.9 million votes (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 OP
Brilliant! Nt spooky3 Nov 2019 #1
I actually think this is a poor response. SlogginThroughIt Nov 2019 #2
He was bringing it back to the Constitution. n/t Dennis Donovan Nov 2019 #3
Agreed Fritz Walter Nov 2019 #7
It was a clever way to connect the claim to the Constitution... Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #16
Too many forget that he lost the popular vote. LuvNewcastle Nov 2019 #4
Frum is a "conservative intellectual" Freddie Nov 2019 #5
Well, Frum was born and grew up in Canada luvtheGWN Nov 2019 #13
He can't have one but not other. EC & impeached/resign or No EC & cede Presidency to Hillary. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2019 #6
Actually The Wizard Nov 2019 #8
Dang, I miss the days when I disagreed with every word that David Frum wrote or said, or for catbyte Nov 2019 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Nov 2019 #10
Yeah, no Frum fan, but that was a kill shot response Cosmocat Nov 2019 #11
Not quite a great smack down. progressoid Nov 2019 #12
He's not disparaging the Constitution. Pacifist Patriot Nov 2019 #17
Right. progressoid Nov 2019 #18
Scorch! the psycho lies about his popular Cha Nov 2019 #14
K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #15
 

SlogginThroughIt

(1,977 posts)
2. I actually think this is a poor response.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:43 AM
Nov 2019

It doesn’t matter if he was democratically elected or not. He committed impeachable offenses. Getting baited into this being about the election is the response they want so that they can say we are trying to reverse the election.

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
7. Agreed
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 10:28 AM
Nov 2019

One might argue that the RusspubliCONs are trying to reverse the results of the 2018 election, but we should stay away from their briar patch and stay focused on treason, and high crimes and misdemeanors.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
16. It was a clever way to connect the claim to the Constitution...
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:00 PM
Nov 2019

And point out Trump's offense is impeachable as the drafters of our Constitution intended it to be.

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
4. Too many forget that he lost the popular vote.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:49 AM
Nov 2019

Of course, a lot of the MAGAts believe that the popular vote was rigged because supposedly 3 million illegal immigrants voted in California. There is no proof of that, unless you consider Trump himself to be a valid source. They want to believe it, though, so they do.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
5. Frum is a "conservative intellectual"
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 10:00 AM
Nov 2019

There’s an oxymoron - anyway it’s good to see some on the other side coming to the correct conclusion.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
13. Well, Frum was born and grew up in Canada
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 12:14 PM
Nov 2019

and we Canucks take our Canadian and American history quite seriously. I'd be willing to bet that From could outlast any American in a history "bee". And I forgive him for his turn as W's speecchwriter and advisor. I think he knows better, now!

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
9. Dang, I miss the days when I disagreed with every word that David Frum wrote or said, or for
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019

that matter, everything that Rick Wilson, George Will, Bill Kristol, Anna Navarro Cardenas, Jennifer Rubin, even Nicolle Wallace & Steve Schmidt said. It's like I'm living in some Bizarro World/Twilight Zone. I feel like a battered woman/PTSD survivor. And I'm not saying that lightly or jokingly. I feel emotionally damaged by that thing currently infesting the White House and by all of that thing's apologists in Congress and his goddamned cult.

Response to catbyte (Reply #9)

progressoid

(49,978 posts)
12. Not quite a great smack down.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:35 AM
Nov 2019

Kind of hard to disparage the constitution if we need to use that same constitution to investigate the pResident.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
17. He's not disparaging the Constitution.
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 09:03 PM
Nov 2019

He used a refutation of the democratically elected claim to point out the same Constitution that enabled Trump's election is the same document that prohibits his behavior and is what makes impeaching him for it possible.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
14. Scorch! the psycho lies about his popular
Wed Nov 13, 2019, 06:56 PM
Nov 2019

vote.. he can't take it that Hillary got more Millions More Votes.

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